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You Can’t Work Your Way Through College Anymore
Wall Street Journal ^ | March 16, 2018 | Richard R. West

Posted on 03/18/2018 7:53:39 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: Haiku Guy

“Of course, if you have those skills, who needs college?”

If you have those skills you need a mentor to show you how to start and run a business of your own, not a college degree.


61 posted on 03/18/2018 1:23:26 PM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: RipSawyer

Not true for some!
maybe true for others

stay away from certain classes and you will never run into to those people.

there’s a library and internet at a college & university too!


62 posted on 03/18/2018 1:29:20 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Betty Jane
If a kid has good grades and high test scores, he can get a full tuition up to a free ride somewhere..

My daughter went through IB in high school and got a full ride scholarship at a state university. It covered tuition, fees and dorm and food. Only books were not covered. She didn't waste it either, graduating summa cum laude. I gave her the money I had saved for her education, some of which she used on her Master's degree and some as a down payment on a house.

63 posted on 03/18/2018 1:37:10 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: Celerity

I worked in the cafeteria washing dishes to pay my tuition, room and board. It was a blast; we had so much fun.


64 posted on 03/18/2018 1:38:13 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: Calvin Locke

As far as I know, it made it into the final bill that Trump signed.

It’s a 1.4% tax on investment income of private colleges, with the limitation that it only applies to colleges with 500 or more students, and with investments in excess of $500K per student.


65 posted on 03/18/2018 1:57:37 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: reaganaut1

bump


66 posted on 03/18/2018 2:20:11 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: SoCal Pubbie

The question a person has to ask — is a person willing to amass a huge amount of debt, comparable to a home mortgage or more, for a degree that although fascinating and enriching will not help the person find employment. A degree like this is only affordable to the rich.

To make things more difficult, a person may fall behind the 4 or 5 years while they were in college and out of the work force.

Yes, that piece of paper is nice, but it comes with a huge cost.

To put it in perspective — college debt can be $100K, $200K? A home mortgage is a little higher than this but maybe not — the average mortgage takes 30 years to pay off!


67 posted on 03/18/2018 2:55:07 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Vaduz

“”So true some good looking freshmen women can get up to $4,000 for from a sugar daddy some men pop on smart young women also some young women work at jiggle joints and make good money to pay for school know a few who became lawyers.””

Hope that post isn’t an indication that you went to college and didn’t learn what punctuation was for. If true, you were clearly gypped!!!!


68 posted on 03/18/2018 3:06:51 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: dhs12345

“”College should only be considered as an opportunity to gain skills for future employment. Nothing more.””

As some other FReeper pointed out on a different thread with the same subject a few days ago, you don’t learn any skills in college - only that someone had what it took to stick it out and finish. Learning skills for a job comes AFTER the debt has piled up - sadly!!


69 posted on 03/18/2018 3:10:03 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: heylady

The other thing about Riddle is that outside of the aviation community, no one has ever heard of it.

BUT... within Aviation, Riddle is an esteemed name around the world and doors open for ERAU graduates.

Best value in education!


70 posted on 03/18/2018 3:32:14 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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To: reaganaut1
When I went to Arizona State University, I had to work three part-time jobs to pay for my tuition. I earned less than a $1.00 an hour at two of the jobs. The third one I made $1.10 an hour.

Tuition was $150 a semester or $300 a year plus books and summer school classes in the late 60s. I graduated with a four year business degree in three years to save money. I was always broke. But I had zero debt after graduating.

My parents didn't help except to offer room and board if I wanted it but being 18 and a college kid, I moved out and lived with friends. I did go home once a week to do my laundry and eat Sunday dinner with my family.

It is my belief that someone who doesn't have enough sense to not borrow tens of thousands of dollars for four years of college tuition for some worthless liberal arts degree they can't earn a decent living from, they shouldn't be attending university to begin with.

Going to college doesn't make you any smarter. Only more educated.

71 posted on 03/18/2018 3:36:41 PM PDT by HotHunt
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To: dhs12345

Cost is a different issue. Furthermore, I believe the future is bringing technological changes to challenge how colleges operate. But that does not mean that the goal of college sgould not include developing a person as a whole human being, and not just a worker


72 posted on 03/18/2018 4:15:25 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: DeFault User

Congratulations. Mine took the full ride also. Just earned her master’s degree and is gainfully employed in a job she loves at a salary she can live on comfortably.


74 posted on 03/18/2018 5:53:35 PM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: Sequoyah101

I don’t know why he wasn’t picked up for a residency program. There was a hint of behavioral problems, but I’m not making a diagnosis here. The way he told the story, he was not picked up in 3 successive rounds (annual “drafts” if you will.) I know nothing about medical school or residency so, feel free to correct me on this. I wouldn’t have believed the total, but I was given statements from the loan servicer.


75 posted on 03/18/2018 6:42:59 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: reaganaut1

For my freshman year at Pitt (mid 70’s), my tuition was $360 per semester. That’s what my daughter paid per credit hour at a comparable state supported university last year. There is no possible justification for this.


76 posted on 03/18/2018 7:45:51 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Betty Jane

Sometimes our cup runneth over. :o)


77 posted on 03/18/2018 9:33:48 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: reaganaut1

Colleges are intentionally expensive as part of a wealth distribution program, to siphon off the parents wealth and retirement funds.


78 posted on 03/19/2018 3:15:47 AM PDT by aj2me (Gershom)
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To: Betty Jane

my two daughters both had full academic scholarships to good schools. one bio-chem major, one mechanical engineer. neither of them borrowed a dime. neither did I.


79 posted on 03/19/2018 12:12:33 PM PDT by wny
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