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Along with the cost explosion for the bullet train, a project that in a rationally governed California would be about the 17th most urgent infrastructure addition, came the not altogether shocking news that this nifty train's anticipated completion date has been pushed still farther into the future, to the year 2033.
1 posted on 03/13/2018 1:49:55 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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In the meantime, 200,000 residents living downstream from the gigantic Oroville Dam had to be evacuated by panicked officials during the winter of 2016-17. As luck would have it, the old dam did not collapse.

I wonder what the priorities are for this one....

And get a load of this -— Even the hoary and easily befuddled Senator Dianne Feinstein has noticed that California is making do for 40 million people with a water supply system designed for 15 million.


2 posted on 03/13/2018 1:52:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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California’s present political and social mindset is a product exactly of its natural gifts, and its position as one of the main end-points of waves of massive government debt and printed money in our unbacked, fiat, Federal Reserve currency.

Fake money is the absolute foundation of leftist/progressive thought


3 posted on 03/13/2018 1:54:45 PM PDT by PGR88
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In the meantime, The Boring Company will likely dig an LA-SF tunnel without taxpayer dollars (unless legislators insist on throwing money at it), be far more convenient to ride, and run a profit shortly after opening.


5 posted on 03/13/2018 1:57:07 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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Bullet train.....”Any bets on the final price tag?”......

better not be any federal funds used, If Kalifornika wants the bullet train, let them pay for it out of state taxes, definitely NOT federal funds.


7 posted on 03/13/2018 2:03:10 PM PDT by DaveA37
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Don't shortchange the stupidity of California when it comes to Moonbeam, he has been:

Los Angeles Community College District Board of Trustees 69-71

Secretary of State of California in 1971 and served until 1975.

Mayor of Oakland from 1999 to 2007

Attorney General of California from 2007 to 2011

Two terms as Governor in 1974 and 1978 and ran for his third and fourth term as Governor in 2010 and 2014

A lifetime of leeching off the taxpayer and in every instance he left the city or state worse of than when he took office! If only the people of California had learned to heed "If it's Brown Flush it down". And this imbecile wanted to be President!

12 posted on 03/13/2018 2:43:50 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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Time for Trump to offer California to Mexico as a bargaining chip in Nafta negotiations. Since California wants Mexican citizens so badly the easiest way to do this is to make everyone in the state a Mexican citizen even Senor Harvey Weinstein.


14 posted on 03/13/2018 2:48:08 PM PDT by chuckee
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Possibly $98 billion and a completion date of 2033. Compare this to the Apollo Program. And this is for a train fergawdsake! That goes from nowhere to nowhere. Absolute madness!


16 posted on 03/13/2018 2:48:57 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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It will cost over a trillion dollars..................


17 posted on 03/13/2018 2:54:27 PM PDT by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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Answer: Mexico City, Guadalajara, Los Angeles

Name the three largest Mexican cities

18 posted on 03/13/2018 2:59:17 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (California: drive illegally, you lose your license, here illegally, they give you one.)
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20 posted on 03/13/2018 3:06:52 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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21 posted on 03/13/2018 3:08:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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A MODEST PROPOSAL

Per Wikipedia, there are about 35,000 flights annually between San Francisco and LA.

Let's assume there are 125 people per flight (let's be conservative and assume those "shorter haul" flights have 30 rows of 5 seats, and we'll assume they're close to sold out...yea I know...probably not..please work with me).

A one-way flight to SFO from LAX costs about $100.

Therefore, the total revenue produced by this air traffic is 35,000 * 125 * $100 = $437.5 million.

At an estimated $77 billion cost, if we assume all that air traffic would switch to rail (a YUGE assumption), it would take 176 years to break even (assuming no interest/time value of money).

I am NO fan of public money for private consumption. But at this rate, it'd be more cost effective to PAY people to fly back and forth and ditch the project.

I'm just sayin'....

22 posted on 03/13/2018 3:08:46 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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We voted for a free train that was to be paid for by bonds and private investors. When the investors didn’t come through, the judges took it over and forced it on us. We are paying for it with Cap and Trade money. Cap and Trade went after the oil refineries and they passed the costs onto the buyers.

Carbon dioxide was declared a greenhouse gas by our Supreme Court.

Congress has to step up and fire rogue judges. Judges forced school bussing on us in the 70s forcing us out of Los Angeles. When the illegals moved in California denied them free healthcare, public education and social services with Proposition 187.

Another rogue judge overturned Prop 187.

Judges cut off water to the south over a small fish. A fish that the forest service said wasn’t endangered.

Judges have told us we can’t detain illegal aliens.
If there are no orders to deport them, then they are legal and allowed welfare.
Judges struck down voter ID laws.
They stopped many states from cleaning their voter lists.
They said that stealing someone’s identification is legal if they didn’t know the ID was real.
They let prisoners out of jail early, saying the prisons were overcrowded.

Jeff Sessions says there are more than 600 federal judges.
He says “Under our Constitution, Congress writes our laws, the executive branch carries out our laws, and the judiciary applies those laws to cases and controversies.”

“These branches are coequal. The courts are not superior. On matters of policy, the branches that are directly accountable to the people must be given proper respect. That’s why it’s so alarming that judges are increasingly issuing nationwide injunctions — orders that block the entire federal government from enforcing an executive-branch policy or executing a statute. These injunctions block the government from carrying out a law — not just in one district or to one person, but anywhere in America.”

“Scholars have not found a single example of any judge issuing that type of extreme remedy in the first 175 years of the Republic.”
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/nationwide-injunctions-stop-elected-branches-enforcing-law/


26 posted on 03/13/2018 4:10:52 PM PDT by Haddit (Minimalists Al Gore and Al Qaeda)
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California can’t be saved, only rebuilt from the ashes.


29 posted on 03/13/2018 9:38:00 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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