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4 Bad Arguments for Trump’s New Tariffs
Reason Magazine ^ | March 6, 2018 | Veronique de Rugy

Posted on 03/09/2018 11:09:13 AM PST by Oklahoma

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To: ConservativeMind

Singapore and Hong Kong have very few natural resources and probably come closest to having true Free Trade. Here is a list I found.

Country........................2010...Score...2009
Singapore........................ 1...... 6.06...... 1
Hong Kong SAR ................2...... 5.70. .....2
Denmark .........................3...... 5.41...... 4
Sweden ...........................4...... 5.41...... 5
Switzerland ......................5....... 5.37..... 3
New Zealand.................... 6....... 5.33.... 11
Norway............................ 7....... 5.32..... 7
Canada............................ 8....... 5.29..... 6
Luxembourg..................... 9....... 5.28.... 13
Netherlands ....................10....... 5.26.... 10
Iceland ............................11...... 5.26.... n/a
Finland............................ 12...... 5.25...... 8
Germany .........................13...... 5.20..... 12
Austria ...........................14....... 5.17...... 9
Australia ........................15....... 5.13..... 14
United Arab Emirates........ 16....... 5.12..... 18
United Kingdom ...............17....... 5.06.... 20
Chile ..............................18....... 5.06.... 19
United States .................19....... 5.03.... 16
France ............................20....... 5.02.... 17

I think it would be best if the government just got out of the picture.


41 posted on 03/09/2018 12:59:23 PM PST by Oklahoma
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To: Oklahoma

You could make scary arguments not to ever drink water.


42 posted on 03/09/2018 1:04:28 PM PST by CodeToad (Dr. Spock was an idiot!.)
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To: DesertRhino
Call it sophistry if you want. The numbers don't lie:

Think Nothing is Made in America?

43 posted on 03/09/2018 1:23:33 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: Kazan

>>>The net impact of Trump’s economic policies will be more jobs.

Let’s take a look at the recent tariffs placed on Canadian softwood lumber imports in May 2017. US employment in sawmills was 92,600. It is now 92,100. Plywood plants stayed at 77,500. Meanwhile, lumber prices have increased from $360 to as high as $520 and are now at $480.


44 posted on 03/09/2018 1:32:48 PM PST by oincobx
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To: Alberta's Child

“The steel industry in the U.S. was decimated by two things: (1) mismanagement by corporate, union and government leaders; and (2) outdated/obsolete production facilities and processes.”

To be sure, these “rust belt” industries have done a lot of the damage they have incurred by their own hand, but there is a strategic element to basic industries we need to stay free. The biggest piece of it is a management structure whereby the line managers, seeking to move up the corporate ladder, do not manage their facilities, but rather run them into the ground while making their bottom lines look good to the top guys, knowing that they will move up and the next guys will have to face the disasters they have left. The biggest example of this practice is the domestic auto industry. They have such burdensome employee benefits and retirement costs that they probably work at a $20.00 per direct labor hour disadvantage to their foreign competitors.


45 posted on 03/09/2018 1:37:29 PM PST by vette6387
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To: nickcarraway
More jobs in China, not here.

Makes no sense. If it is cheaper to buy steel from US companies, US companies will increase production and hire workers.

And, Trump ran on this policy, knowing it would impact his companies. He is doing it for the good of the country.

46 posted on 03/09/2018 1:43:53 PM PST by Kazan
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To: oincobx
The tariffs you mentioned were passed when the corporate tax rate was 35% and there billions of dollars more in regulation. The new tariffs are MORE than offset by both.

That is why it is necessary to look at Trump's economic package as a whole.

47 posted on 03/09/2018 1:45:44 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan

When Bush put tariffs on steal, it sent jobs overseas. We’ve been down this road before. China only sells us 3% of our steal.


48 posted on 03/09/2018 1:45:47 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: vette6387

Mills here are producing better high grade metals. It’s not like it was in the 40s, but it’s not a dead industry either.


49 posted on 03/09/2018 1:48:59 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: nickcarraway

Bush didn’t cut the corporate tax rate by 15%. He didn’t cut billions of dollars of regulations. All that MORE than the additional costs of the tariffs.


50 posted on 03/09/2018 1:51:31 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Oklahoma
We also have the option to import steel with zero threat to our country.

Because imports are never disrupted in time of war.

You can't start with a premise more asinine than that one,

51 posted on 03/09/2018 1:53:04 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: heights
As I've said before:

In an age of ICBMs, satellites, and a permanent human presence in orbit, the idea that mass-producing military hardware like tanks and ships will have any role in a major armed conflict is silly.

The only traditional military hardware that will matter will be the stuff that exists on the day the shooting starts. This isn't the 1940s. The entire surface fleets of nations could be sunk within hours.

52 posted on 03/09/2018 1:53:22 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: vette6387

There is this hollow tree, and these tiny patriot elves...


53 posted on 03/09/2018 1:56:31 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Sybeck1

DING DING DING! The uniparty embrace of “free trade” is why the Rust Belt was blue for as long as it was...

Democrats watched their party march off the lunatic left end, but Republicans gave them no reason to break with their traditional party... so they just disengaged.

The realignment of the Upper Midwest/Rust Belt was LONG LONG overdue, and had the Republican party not been run by neocon idiots, arguing foreign nations dumping their products here was a good thing, because they were taking money from the folks who were making a fortune extracting and selling off the US’s wealth, it would have happened long before 2016.


54 posted on 03/09/2018 1:56:52 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Ted Grant
Is’t that the rag with the sixty year old guy in a leather jacket spokesman?

John Walsh?


55 posted on 03/09/2018 1:56:56 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Sam Gamgee

Most here are on the side of being able to sustain a wartime economy. We have no problem whatsoever with calling people opposed to maintaining that capability out on it, no matter what twisted rhetoric they use.


56 posted on 03/09/2018 2:00:32 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Rastus

Nah.


57 posted on 03/09/2018 2:13:40 PM PST by Ted Grant
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To: DesertRhino

The neocon globalists hate tariffs with a passion, they need to bring in stuff from their outsourced polluting and slave labor factories duty free.
This is why they don’t care that others have tariffs against us.

They flip the finger to Reagan who used them very effectively, and to the founders who financed the entire nation with them till the civil war. Weird to see the GOP closely aligned with the thinking of Woodrow Wilson.

The bottom line, as a continent sized nation, the USA could exist alone as a very successful economy. Trade should only enhance our well-being, but not be used to destroy industries and the entire middle class.
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You’re correct, but these globalists are only human. They have billionaire corporate leaders stuffing their pockets to keep that slave labor train rolling.
Same with the war machine.


58 posted on 03/09/2018 7:36:58 PM PST by snarkytart
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