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California gears up for a battle over single-family zoning near transit
San Jose Mercury ^ | March 3, 2018 | Katy Murphy

Posted on 03/03/2018 4:14:37 PM PST by artichokegrower

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To: Rurudyne

Somehow ‘Utopia’ does NOT seem like right word.


41 posted on 03/03/2018 8:38:21 PM PST by Ambrosia
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To: Architect of Avalon

Some of that is population explosion. It is also a question of ‘who’ are having all these children? Immigrants keep their children, so who is paying to house, feed, and also, to take care of these buildings? We are, with our tax dollars.


42 posted on 03/03/2018 8:41:38 PM PST by Ambrosia
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I guess you didn’t read the article-——these would be pricey apartments and condos,not housing projects.

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43 posted on 03/03/2018 9:01:02 PM PST by Mears
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To: Ambrosia

U-Topeka?


44 posted on 03/03/2018 11:19:30 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne

If by ‘U-Topeka’ you mean our USS Topeka used in WWII/Vietnam/Asia ‘ship’, yes, it sure isn’t ‘let the good times roll’....Utopia. The left creates chaos in all things.

If you have another meaning, let me know?


45 posted on 03/03/2018 11:46:55 PM PST by Ambrosia
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To: Ambrosia

Actually, it was just a play on Topeka.

Have an interesting story from out of there relayed to me by a police sergeant I used to know.

It’s funny so I think of Topeka at odd times.

Essentially, around the time Topeka was characterized by other folks I knew as a place where you could stand in front of any convenience store at an intersection and see 4 more at the intersections up and down the streets.

Specifically though, the tale related to one store on the outskirts of town. One night a guy wearing a mask and brandishing a gun entered to rob it. The clerk told him store policy was to give him no trouble, apparently made a point of saying he wasn’t even trying to look at his face, and then he asked the guy if he wanted him to count the cash drawer up for him, so he’d know how much he was getting.

The guy said “sure” but apparently decided to leave the small change rather than wait for it to be counted.

The clerk took a gas receipt and wrote out how much was in the bag.

The robber took it and the pen and without thinking about it signed his name, took the cash and his copy and left.

After a few moments of disbelief the clerk locked the door and called the cops with a signed confession to felony robbery in hand.


46 posted on 03/04/2018 12:06:37 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne

How funny! I didn’t think of Topeka, KS...I’m in NC.


47 posted on 03/04/2018 12:10:54 AM PST by Ambrosia
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To: Paladin2

Move the populace into cramped controllable area, this is the begining


48 posted on 03/04/2018 3:42:26 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Trump plays chess the rest are still playing checkers)
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To: Rurudyne
They certainly shouldn’t be developed into the excuse to force higher population density where it doesn’t occur on its own.

"Occur on its own" needs to be unpacked a bit. If we allowed the market to rule, many areas in the urban core and inner ring suburbs would shift naturally from single family homes to apartment and condo developments. The demand is there. People are sick and tired of spending four or more hours a day in their cars. I'm not talking about welfare housing here; I'm talking about decent apartments within easy commute range for young professionals and couples. It's zoning that prevents this from happening. Zoning is the antithesis of the market. It's big government planning.

Not that I'm always opposed to it. I live on Capitol Hill in DC. I'm in the historic district. And thank goodness. I'm all for appropriate zoning. But there's a balance to be struck, and placing higher density residential buildings along public transit corridors is generally a good idea. DC is doing this rather systematically along metrorail corridors, and it's a good thing.

Again, this isn't about welfare housing; it's about affordable housing for young professionals and couples, and families with one or two children. People are rebelling against brutal commutes, and we need to rebalance our zoning accordingly. Every city is different. Each will have to seek its own balance. The issue may not be acute in smaller cities, but in New York, LA, DC, Chicago, etc., there is a real need for some serious rebalancing of housing options. That begins by understanding that our larger cities are well past the point of diminishing returns on the automobile commute.

Welfare housing is a different problem entirely. What we've learned from the Pruitt-Igoe/Cabrini Green type projects is that low income housing needs to be dispersed to break up large, self-reinforcing concentrations of people trapped in dysfunctional behaviors. But that's a discussion for another day. Here we're talking about young working people at all income levels who want to avoid spending the majority of their non-work waking hours behind the wheel.

49 posted on 03/04/2018 5:05:23 AM PST by sphinx
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To: Mears

“Pricey” apartments become slums when they are poorly built and nobody wants to live in them. I’ve seen it all too often. Have you forgotten the classic experiments of what happens when you crowd too many rats in a box?


50 posted on 03/04/2018 5:27:18 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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