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California gears up for a battle over single-family zoning near transit
San Jose Mercury ^ | March 3, 2018 | Katy Murphy

Posted on 03/03/2018 4:14:37 PM PST by artichokegrower

Taking aim at climate change, highway gridlock and soaring housing costs, a California lawmaker has ignited a red-hot debate with a proposal that would force cities to allow more apartments and condominiums to be built a short walk from train stations and bus stops.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: agenda21; california
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“Soviet-style master planning with raging crony capitalism.”


Local zoning and planning will be tossed out for centralized dictates coming from Sacramento

1 posted on 03/03/2018 4:14:38 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Agenda 21 —> The Matrix


2 posted on 03/03/2018 4:18:31 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: artichokegrower

There is a very dangerous movement across North America to replace family homes with small / cramped / Third-World-Style housing units.


3 posted on 03/03/2018 4:19:18 PM PST by Architect of Avalon
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To: artichokegrower

It’s a wonderful day in my neighborhood...

(sounds of earth movers outside)

A few trees and yards less everyday in my neighborhood...

(Jackhammer and chainsaw sounds)

Would you be mine, could you be mine, won’t you be my several thousand new neighbors?


4 posted on 03/03/2018 4:21:17 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: artichokegrower

battle over single-family zoning near transit, artichokegrower wrote:
“Soviet-style master planning with raging crony capitalism.”

Local zoning and planning will be tossed out for centralized dictates coming from Sacramento

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Like local zoning isn’t centralized corrupt central planning as it is? Why is it that property the Mayor owns has 1 acre zoning and the rest around it is 5? What makes the Mayor’s property more special? Oh wait, he is crony and gets what he wants, while the rest are told to f-off.

Zoning in general should be illegal.

I don’t see the Town on my deeds nor the State, nor the Feds

All zoning is central planning, doesn’t matter if it your local piss pot dictators doing it, the state dopes or Uncle Sam


5 posted on 03/03/2018 4:22:33 PM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: Architect of Avalon

I’d say tiny homes, which are hithertoo entirely elective, are much less worrisome than the movement that everyone must be attached to approved of public works.


6 posted on 03/03/2018 4:23:15 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Architect of Avalon

“Already, the bill has electrified supporters — including the pro-development YIMBY (Yes In My Backyard) coalition sponsoring it — who believe California’s attachment to single-family neighborhoods is strangling the state”

The single family home where the kids can go out into the backyard and play. Mom can have her garden and dad can mow the lawn. What a horrible model for a society.


7 posted on 03/03/2018 4:23:55 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: Architect of Avalon

There’s another dangerous movement where cities enact zoning laws that prevent the development of denser housing, anti-sprawl laws that prevent the construction of housing in new areas, and then poverty programs to construct subsidized housing because housing is too expensive.

I don’t know which worries me more.


8 posted on 03/03/2018 4:24:34 PM PST by jdege
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To: Trump.Deplorable

If you don’t like zoning don’t complain when the build the homeless shelter next door to you.


9 posted on 03/03/2018 4:25:27 PM PST by artichokegrower
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Putting high density and moderate income housing next to commuter rail stations should be a no brainer. Amazing that so many people are sputtering about it.


10 posted on 03/03/2018 4:26:53 PM PST by sphinx
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If you don’t like zoning don’t complain when the build the homeless shelter next door to you.


Zoning wouldn’t prevent that, they would just get variance and if the right people are involved and the right amount of money is passed around, it will get approved.

Zoning is to prevent YOU from profiting from YOUR property and puts 100% control of YOUR property into the hands of local politicians who are the most corrupt people in the political world because nobody is focus on them.

Local tyranny is the worse kind of tyranny


11 posted on 03/03/2018 4:30:45 PM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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Nothing new for communists controlled California.


12 posted on 03/03/2018 4:31:22 PM PST by Logical me
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Build the ghettos and they will force you into them.


13 posted on 03/03/2018 4:31:42 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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“Mom can have her garden and dad can mow the lawn. “

Now dad will have to find another acceptable reason to drink copious amounts of beer.


14 posted on 03/03/2018 4:31:47 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Wisdom and education are different things. Don't confuse them.)
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To: Architect of Avalon

It’s part of Agenda 21.


15 posted on 03/03/2018 4:33:11 PM PST by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: artichokegrower
I can't read the whole article (the Mercury site does not like my ad blocker).

That said, one wonders how many Cali lawmakers live in gated communities as opposed to the human cages for which they promote through zoning.

16 posted on 03/03/2018 4:36:23 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except for convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

I agree...learned that recently when I subdivided some land, for a purpose I wanted, yet their control prevents me from using land, as it is best suited. Committees spend lots of time talking, and accomplish little!


17 posted on 03/03/2018 4:42:59 PM PST by Ambrosia
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Suspecting that they’ll force single family homes out is the issue.

Frankly, unless the population density is already high and geography already constrained so that you can serve a large number of people with minimal infrastructure things like local commuter trains shouldn’t even be considered.

They certainly shouldn’t be developed into the excuse to force higher population density where it doesn’t occur on its own.


18 posted on 03/03/2018 4:43:34 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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I read article the other day, that CA areas are NOT fixing roads because they want people to quit using cars, and them to agree to build more public transportation. That makes zero sense, some autos are necessary for grocery shopping, etc. Bus/trains do not always run convenient schedules.


19 posted on 03/03/2018 4:46:05 PM PST by Ambrosia
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The single family home where the kids can go out into the backyard and play. Mom can have her garden and dad can mow the lawn. What a horrible model for a society.

No, we should all strive for a cramped apartment block where the stairwells are dangerous and smell bad (as in public housing in NYC and Chicago, or any big city that has tried this model.) s/off

20 posted on 03/03/2018 4:48:55 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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