I suspect that they can. FFLs have wide latitude in refusing to sell.
Federal law allows a firearms dealer to refuse sale for ANY reason. I know, I used to work for one, and had refused a few sales to people who disturbed me as being potentially off-kilter. Just a gut feeling, but the law said I could do it.
Yes probably. With the exception of Fast and Furious where ffls were ordered to complete sales to the cartels, the nics system does not order a sale to proceed, it only authorizes it. The individual FFL Holder can always decide to not complete a sale and there’s no liability for it.
FReeper Windflier has spoken about something similar though with the DACA people.
We are creating a tiered citizenship structure.
Where citizens are only granted their rights after a certain age or certain requirements have been met by the powers that be.
Question for the gathered:
How does a regulatory background check not infringe my RKBA when I have to cede my 5A guarantee of self-incrimination to purchase a firearm?
Raise the gun-owning age to 21, then automatically we should raise the voting age to 21, driving age to 21, military service age to 21.
It will at least serve the Left’s purpose of keeping everyone a child as long as possible.
Sell to all legal buyers over 18, else to none. Hopefully someone will sue one of these companies and get precidence set that 18 is age and discrimination to no respect it. Long overdue.
I don’t know American law at all, but I did wonder how Walmart would pull this off.
I used to be a property manager and preferred to rent to people over 25 years of age. Well, there’s no way I could do it once the law said so. If the law says 18, and Walmart says 21, what’s the point of having a law? It’s meaningless.
Sure. Just like a bakery can refuse to sell a wedding cake to a gay couple.
Well, of course they can, unless...
It’s a 19 year old, same sex couple, and they want to give each other a matching set of “His & His” or “Her & Her” Ruger 10/22s...
Gimme a break. When are we going to cut this garbage called “anti-discrimination” which is diametrically opposed to freedom of association, enshrined in the 4th Amendment?
Growing up, most establishments had
"We Reserve The Right to Refuse Service to Anyone".
Prominently posted. That was their RIGHT. When LBJ instituted his "Great (socialistic) Society", this right was pretty much taken away, but I think store owners STILL have that right. Keep in mind, a store owner that sells a gun to a nutjob that shoots up a bunch of people, will later be criticized and likely hounded out of business for doing so.
If they can refuse to sell a rifle to an 18 year old they can refuse to bake a wedding cake for fags. End of story.
Sad. I worked, bought and paid for my first gun when I was 12 years old. A Marlin lever action .22 rifle. Still have it.
Some 20 year old is going to walk into Walmart and try to buy a rifle when they say we "won't" sell to you because of your age they are going to get sued for violation of civil rights. They will lose before the case even gets going.
Walmart and other dealers choice is to sell according to law which means they can't discriminate because of age, etc. or get out of the gun business.
Going to have a real chuckle when these leftist business retards get there own discrimination laws crammed up their cram holes.
It would be even better if a 2nd amendment movement had 20k 20 year olds go into walmart and try to buy that way it could be a class action suit for 2.5 billion or so. lol !!
Can bakers refuse to bake a cake for someone?
RFR - Rule 4: Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules...
Does the Gay Wedding cake cases establish legal precedents to remove DICK’S Sporting Goods business licenses or fine the business for discrimination?
Maybe someone in Oregon can press this issue..
Raising the age to which the Second Amendment is allowed to apply to 21 will be followed by raising it to 22, then 23, then 24, then 25, and so on.
Interesting, and taking the premise though to other more extreme conclusions illuminates a “slippery slope”. Can Google say “we will refuse” to give an account to anyone over 35? Currently, they feasibly could under the premise of “I’m a public company, I can REFUSE to serve ANYONE for ANY reason”. (Unless you’re a cake maker)
Can a movie theater REFUSE service to someone because they are OLD? Or Young? (yes, currently for certain movies) Or Wearing a MAGA hat? Or happen to be of a “color” they don’t prefer?
And under the same reasoning, if Google said “We refuse to grant an account to anyone that is Catholic? or Black? or Jewish?” Is this still feasible under the same premise? Que the ACLU.... Perhaps It is time for the entities that represent the foundation and underpinnings of the internet to be declared “public accommodations” and as such, they can not infringe on our basic rights.
I am not a big fan of government regulation, but I do believe that he “basic” structure of the internet SHOULD be declared a Public Utility. I don’t believe for example that Google, or Youtube or Twitter should be declared public entities. If we don’t like how they “censor” us, then BUILD an alternative - but I do think that ALL ISP’s and International Internet Exchange Points and the like should.
As examples, there should never be a time when an ISP or Local Service provider can LIMIT our Freedom to conduct commerce or compete in the arena of ideas by “refusing” to HOST our alternative to Youtube, or Google, or Twitter or provide a company competing with Instagram or Amazon with an IP address, etc.
The “internet” at it’s most basic level, MUST Always be open to everyone, just like the Power Grid, Road, Water and Sewer system - and just as we wouldn’t let Kentucky Utilities “refuse” service and provide power to someone under the age of 21 or provide electrical service the Kentucky GOP Headquarters, we should never let the basic “backbone” of the internet be “soft” regulated by the companies who essentially hold the “keys to the kingdom” but REFUSE to open the door just because they decide to conduct commercial warfare on their “political” enemies.
Just one man’s opinion...