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Democracy v. Republic
Artful Dilettante ^ | February 22, 2018 | Artful Dilettante

Posted on 02/22/2018 8:09:29 PM PST by huckfillary

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To: huckfillary
In republics, the component members of society are represented at the lawmaking table.

Until the 17th Amendment, no republic in history denied the lawmaking consent of a component member. Since 1913, the states have been subjected to arbitrary, despotic rule – tyranny. While the Constitution and subsequent laws and court rulings still act on the states, the states have no say in the government of their creation. Left in the wake of the 17A is federalism without a federal government!

This contradiction, this tyranny within an otherwise rational form of government will be our demise. Because of the 17A, the tyranny exerted on the states is fast overwhelming the other component of the American republic – the people.

21 posted on 02/23/2018 1:19:24 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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Great points! The fighting over political spoils at the federal-level has reached the current heights because there is so much potential advantage to be gained. In the early days of our republic there just wasn’t that much at stake as the individual states were sovereign and the US government was small and comparatively weak.


22 posted on 02/23/2018 3:35:18 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: Kickass Conservative
Go back and listen to then State Senator Obama (I believe) saying the Founders got it wrong and that the Constitution should consist of "Negative" Rights.

It does consist of negative rights. Those of the government!

23 posted on 02/23/2018 5:53:57 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: huckfillary
It is a constitutional republic

The United States of America is a Constitutional Federal Republic.

I grew up in a time when the word democracy was in common use. At some point the Democratic Political Party began to promote Democracy for America. In order for any political party to further socialism for a nation that nation must first become a democracy.

Liberals insist that America is a Democracy because we hold democratic elections.

They ignore the fact that the word “democracy” never appears in either the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution. The Constitution guarantees to every state a Republican Form of Government. Also, the word democracy doesn’t appear in any of the state’s Constitutions. We pledge allegiance to the flag and the Republic that is stands for.

American is no more a democracy than a liberal is a classical liberal.

24 posted on 02/23/2018 6:01:32 AM PST by MosesKnows (Love Many, Trust Few, and Always Paddle Your Own Canoe)
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To: sparklite2
We are no longer a republic with a federal government of enumerated powers

You are incorrect!

The words in the Constitution guaranteeing a Republican Form of Government with limited powers of legislation have not changed.

We are the Sovereign, not the government. We don't make the rules but we control who does. We have the obligation to elect representatives who will honor their oath to protect our rights from government interference.

25 posted on 02/23/2018 6:11:41 AM PST by MosesKnows (Love Many, Trust Few, and Always Paddle Your Own Canoe)
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To: MosesKnows

The words in the Constitution guaranteeing a Republican Form of Government with limited powers of legislation have not changed.


Neither had the laws on illegal immigration. We just chose not to enforce them. The Commerce Clause interpretation put an end to whatever restrictions the enumerated powers might have had.


26 posted on 02/23/2018 9:50:07 AM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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The Commerce Clause interpretation

Therein lays the true beauty of our Constitution. It is the interpretation that is called into question, not the Commerce Clause.

The matter of interpretation is subject to review in a different court of a different day.

Cling to the Constitution and when the courts stray invite them back to the Constitution and if they resist shun them.

27 posted on 02/23/2018 4:59:48 PM PST by MosesKnows (Love Many, Trust Few, and Always Paddle Your Own Canoe)
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