Posted on 02/22/2018 4:08:27 PM PST by MilesVeritatis
Fox said this guy was a police officer, not a “security guard,” and that he waited outside for four minutes while shooting was going on.
One more layer of failure in the multilayered system.
Chief Schultz gave this account of the early events in Albuquerque:
9:26 a.m.: 911 callers report a gunman shooting people at Emcore Corp. Building 2 at 1600 Eubank Blvd. SE.
9:27 a.m.: The first officer arrives on the scene and soon is joined by four more including a sergeant and lieutenant.
9:29 a.m.: The five officers formed as an “active-shooter response team” enter the building focused on isolating the gunman.
This kind of very rapid and aggressive response has stopped a few incidents early in their tracks. This includes off duty cops and a few citizens who were armed. It’s been proven time and again that these cowards hole up or commit suicide when they meet an armed response.
I read that someplace
I have a camera system for my home and business and you *can* do that by mistake, like reviewing something that happened 20 minutes ago and forget to put it back in live mode
I think this guy was an idiot, a connected idiot that got the job because he was related somewhere and it was suppose to be an easy do nothing job (like most government work).
As the TV commercial says:
Im a security monitor, not a security guard.
so, kind of like the FBI...
“Parents must demand there be more than one person with guns patrolling the schools.”
Our government should hire the Israeli agency in charge of their school security system to come in an assist us in establishing something similar here. Israel had one shooting, then fixed the problem. No second shooting.
You don’t know what you’re talking about. The Officer entering and engaging him wouldn’t have made it worse. A very long track record of actions at active shooters shows that the response causes them to stop the assault and seek a defensive position. In most cases, they commit suicide then.
What a difference 250 years makes. Back in 1764, the Enoch Brown massacre took place in which all the students, and some locals, were murdered.
Citizens demanded guns and militia(the policemen of the day) to help them out.
The PACIFIST QUAKER legislature refused. “NO GUNS FOR YOU!”
the citizens piled their dead in the halls of the legislature forcing the Quakers to walk over them. They got their guns and militia.
Today we had a school house massacre. The government offers guns for teachers and armed police. The people say “NO GUNS! Stop the killings without guns!”
What a world!
“How was he going to get behind the shooter, I would wonder? Fly?”
By walking in the same door. And if you can’t get behind him, you might have to engage him from the front.
I think the 20-minute delayed CCTV was being watched by other officers, not this onsite guy. Not sure, but I think so.
I found a Twit that references the SRO’s prior contact (2016) with Cruz/Cruz’s home life.
Wow...
i feel so bad for the dearth of wisdom in “our” foolhardy leader, and for the abuse of the children in “our” secular-culture schools. those poor families, those poor parents.
I guess what I am saying is... who the hell needs to shoot 5000 rounds to get proficient. You either learn or you don't. Handguns aren't easy. But fundamentals are the key.
Besides, who the hell gets 5000 rounds to train with?
So there was a “door” to walk in, on that Third Floor? How rare.
Presuming there are no hysterical fleeing kids between you and shooter, a frontal confrontation sounds ideal, with only a clip.
I did not know shooters will stop firing and possibly kill themselves at the sight of armed opposition. That would be good. In the moment, one can hope that is true.
In any case, chances are a lone deputy stops nothing and becomes one more casualty. However, how was he able to resist the impulse to run into the building, to at least learn exact location of shooter?
Makes you wonder if the SRO was on the other side of the school or just let Cruz walk right by him.
“So there was a door to walk in, on that Third Floor? How rare.”
Stairs. They’re called stairs. T the top of the stairs is usually a fire door. The same one the bad guy used.
“I did not know shooters will stop firing and possibly kill themselves at the sight of armed opposition. “
They don’t always. But they do hole up and must deal with the deputy. And in dozens of cases they commit suicide. And actually the odds of the responding deputy getting killed when responding are relatively low. Most officers shot is such circumstances are ambushed, not killed while responding.
A fire door to the Third Floor, as well as the main stair case?
So shooter used the fire door to enter the Third Floor?
Anxious to learn more, but not convinced Deputy Dawg really ever had a prayer, either. Can’t think why he did not enter the building, though. Almost anybody would want to do that, if at all possible. If only to pin down location.
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