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Pennsylvania Supreme Court issues new election map
Fox News ^ | 19 February 2018 | AP

Posted on 02/19/2018 12:48:33 PM PST by napscoordinator

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To: 2nd amendment mama

I need to learn to not eat or drink while reading FR.


121 posted on 02/19/2018 7:30:59 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: publius911

That map is election fixing, plain and simple.


122 posted on 02/19/2018 7:33:47 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: lepton
Yeah, it was a strawman "challenge" to the National Firearms Act of 1934 that was set-up to allow Roosevelt's SCOTUS to find the regulation of firearms Constitutional.

It was 1939. Don't know why I typed 1958.

123 posted on 02/19/2018 8:03:22 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward 5th Avenue to be born?)
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To: lepton

And also, thanks.


124 posted on 02/19/2018 8:03:49 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward 5th Avenue to be born?)
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To: Kay Ludlow
1) State College is not University Park.
2) University Park has about 30,000 undergrads. Most don't vote in University Park, and although the three student precincts are heavily Democratic, it's doesn't skew Centre County nearly as much as the Faculty and Staff living in State College.
3) Centre County is about 50/50. It went blue in the last Presidential, but usually goes red in local races, midterms, and off-year elections.
125 posted on 02/19/2018 8:13:12 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward 5th Avenue to be born?)
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To: napscoordinator

To be perfectly honest, convoluted election maps are drawn to allow for the election of black candidates...or to eliminate that possibility.

Consider this, if not for legalized abortion and the lobbying of the loathsome, Planned Parenthood, then Congress would be absolutely loaded with black legislators.

Although I would not consider this a good thing, As I believe the best man should be elected, be they black or whatever.

My hatred for abortion FAR outweighs my desire that the best politician win. My moral compass cannot point in any other direction.

If no black babies would have ever been aborted (murdered) then Obama would NOT have been the first black president.

Every FReeper, in their most secret heart, would wrestle with this matter, and IMO, the great majority would come down on the same side as I have!

I have great faith in the moral rectitude of Freepers.


126 posted on 02/19/2018 11:32:41 PM PST by Bobalu (12 diet Cokes and a fried chicken...)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

FM, if enough states do this, what do you think will happen?


127 posted on 02/20/2018 2:08:02 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know saying Syrian rebels in anost back in Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: napscoordinator

not happy about this.


128 posted on 02/20/2018 3:11:50 AM PST by smileyface (Things looking up in RED PA! I love President Trump!)
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To: FredZarguna
42,000 undergrads, 12,000 or so grad students, plus all the adjunct professors they bring in each semester.

Enrollment started to grow quickly as soon as Spanier was out. Didn’t you hear about the ‘accidental’ over-enrollment of about 1,000, I think the 2nd year Spanier was gone? Oops, but it made the new base. They are aiming for 300-400 additional freshmen each year... And that's a cumulative addition.

129 posted on 02/20/2018 3:52:07 AM PST by Kay Ludlow
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To: metmom

Just couldn’t resist...LOL :^)


130 posted on 02/20/2018 4:04:16 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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To: FredZarguna

Still, there’s the Equal Protection clause of the 14th Amendment, so if they are making crazy-quilt districts in order to disenfranchise one group in favor of another, there is a constitutional issue.


131 posted on 02/20/2018 4:56:43 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Ouderkirk
In the end, if elected represenatives are incapable of drawing a coherent map because it conflicts with their own interests then who should remediate the issue?

In any case a there should be no bulges or boots, the lines should be relatively smooth and the similar interests of the people located therein should be the driving force.

These days, the population should be fed to a computer program, and it should spit out a map that was completely reproducible by anyone with a computer. Districts would be as near as square as possible, with perhaps a slight bias towards city or county boundary lines. It shouldn't consider race or political affiliation.

Naturally, any such map that is demonstrably unbiased would be immediately challenged by democrat partisans.

132 posted on 02/20/2018 7:21:06 AM PST by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: PAR35
(Notable exception - when the Democrats gerrymandered Denis Kucinich out of his Ohio congressional seat because he represented his voters, and not the party establishment. )

Same happened to Allen West

133 posted on 02/20/2018 7:42:53 AM PST by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: FredZarguna

Reposting....

....”Neither the Pennsylvania Constitution nor the Federal Constitution gives any entity other than the state legislature the authority to draw the map”.....


134 posted on 02/20/2018 7:50:11 AM PST by caww
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To: OrangeHoof

And do not forget Pittsburgh.


135 posted on 02/20/2018 7:51:06 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5W)
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To: napscoordinator

Frankly, you are naive! If Democrats gerrymandered, no court would ever touch it. What gives these bastards the right to impose their wills upon the people’s representatives in the legislature? As once stated, this is RAW JUDICIAL POWER. Lawlessness prevails.


136 posted on 02/20/2018 8:05:12 AM PST by alstewartfan (Lines of coffee cups on parade. Soldiers for keeping the night away. Al Stewart in Delia's Gone)
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To: alstewartfan

Watch Maryland. You’ll find out it’s not just going after republicans.


137 posted on 02/20/2018 8:36:56 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: dp0622

What will and what should are two different things. We need to break out a rope and start hanging black robed tyrants.


138 posted on 02/20/2018 10:05:22 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: napscoordinator
It is the job of the courts to determine whether or not the action(s) of the legislature are legal/constitutional. It is not the job of the courts to do the job of the legislature.

The supreme court told Washington, DC, that their gun laws were unconstitutional. The supreme court did not rewrite the gun laws of Washington DC.

139 posted on 02/20/2018 10:41:52 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: napscoordinator

I don’t believe it for one second. First, the court has NO authority. Second, if Democrats had skewed the districts, the vote would have been 7-0 to leave them in place. Just like the Fl. “judges” would have voted 7-0 AGAINST Bush were HE behind instead of Gore.


140 posted on 02/20/2018 10:58:48 AM PST by alstewartfan (Lines of coffee cups on parade. Soldiers for keeping the night away. Al Stewart in Delia's Gone)
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