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Judge rules bakery owner can refuse to make wedding cake for same-sex couples
CBS "News" ^ | February 7, 2018

Posted on 02/07/2018 1:14:13 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

BAKERSFIELD, Calif. - A California bakery owner can continue to refuse to make wedding cakes for same-sex couples because it violates her Christian beliefs, a judge ruled.

The decision came after a lawyer for Tastries Bakery in Bakersfield argued that owner Cathy Miller's right to free speech and free expression of religion trumps the argument that she violated a state anti-discrimination law.

Kern County Superior Court Judge David Lampe agreed but said Monday his ruling was tied closely to the fact that Miller was being asked to make a cake for an event and that the act of creating it was protected artistic expression.

Lampe cautioned that freedom of religion does not give businesses a right to refuse service to groups protected by the Unruh Civil Rights Act in other circumstances, the Bakersfield Californian reported.

"A retail tire shop may not refuse to sell a tire because the owner does not want to sell tires to same sex couples," Lampe wrote. "No baker may place their wares in a public display case, open their shop, and then refuse to sell because of race, religion, gender, or gender identification."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1moretime; bakery; christians; homosexualagenda; lawsuit; ruling

1 posted on 02/07/2018 1:14:13 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The perverts will get free lawyers from a pervert rights organization who will eventually prevail.
2 posted on 02/07/2018 1:17:50 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama & Hillary: The Two Most Corrupt Politicians of My Lifetime.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s time for a celebratory country-style song: “Take this cake and shove it!”


3 posted on 02/07/2018 1:20:03 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I read about this case yesterday. Surprised CBS didn’t post this until today.


4 posted on 02/07/2018 1:23:55 PM PST by NetAddicted (Just look)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If her posted price for a fag cake is $100,000 and they pay it, she should make the cake. after the price is paid.


5 posted on 02/07/2018 1:25:15 PM PST by depressed in 06 (60 in '18.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Unless artistic expression allows for violating state laws, I don’t see the judge’s justification. If it goes to appellate court, the verdict may not hold up.


6 posted on 02/07/2018 1:25:22 PM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I think I understand what the judge was saying...if they take a pre-made cake or loaf of bread and put it in their window, they cannot refuse to sell it to someone because of their color blah blah blah etc.

But a custom made cake does not fall under that mantle because of the artistic component.

I would think that might hold up, but...in today’s court environment, I wouldn’t bet on it.


7 posted on 02/07/2018 1:25:26 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: sparklite2

if you bake a cake, cover it with frosting, put it on the shelf and someone wants to buy it, you have to sell it to them.

But if they hand you a picture of two men kissing each other on the mouth, and they want a little figurine of two men, you can refuse.

That makes some sense to me, but I suspect as you do it will be fought and defeated.

Sometimes I think the only alternative is to figuratively bake a lousy or inedible cake.


8 posted on 02/07/2018 1:29:45 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Good.


9 posted on 02/07/2018 1:29:53 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How long will it take the Ninth Circus to overrule this?


10 posted on 02/07/2018 1:30:55 PM PST by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: Gay State Conservative
The perverts will get free lawyers from a pervert rights organization who will eventually prevail

Yup. All they have to do is catch Anthony Kennedy on the right day.


11 posted on 02/07/2018 1:32:40 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
What is so complicated about these cases?

A state can't pass a law that negates the Bill of Rights. Homosexuality is not in the Bill of Rights, but free exercise of religious beliefs is.

The many thousands of years of Judaeo-Christian theology is clear on the matter. Moses, David, Jesus, and Augustine all knew The Law. The baker knows The Law.

At least in this particular case, for once a judge didn't rush to judgment.
 

12 posted on 02/07/2018 1:33:58 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (CNN is fake news.)
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To: rlmorel

Sometimes I think the only alternative is to figuratively bake a lousy or inedible cake.


You can get sued for that, too. I find it of interest, though, that Twitter banned the account of a conservative for being, well, conservative. The guy has sued Twitter. If Twitter can discriminate for political views, maybe the bakers should take that route. Ask the ‘couple’ if they support Trump. Then ban them for saying, no.


13 posted on 02/07/2018 1:34:57 PM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Considering that 78% of Lesbians are Morbidly obese it might be dangerous to deny them goodies.


14 posted on 02/07/2018 1:35:20 PM PST by heights
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Is about time a proprietor right to refuse service to anyone for any reason be respected


15 posted on 02/07/2018 1:36:35 PM PST by northislander
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To: sparklite2

I know. Damn, this type of thing makes me feel the grip of an unconstitutional government.


16 posted on 02/07/2018 1:39:19 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It is not shocking to respect the right of a proprietor to refuse service to anyone for any reason they deem fit


17 posted on 02/07/2018 1:39:55 PM PST by northislander
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That judge will almost certainly be removed from the bench after issuing a correct ruling.


18 posted on 02/07/2018 1:43:05 PM PST by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: depressed in 06

***** If her posted price for a fag cake is $100,000 and they pay it, she should make the cake. after the price is paid. *****


LOL!! Good one!!


19 posted on 02/07/2018 1:49:35 PM PST by Valk Rider
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