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Pentagon To Sell-Off Its AH-1W Super Cobra Attack Helicopter Fleet
The Drive ^ | January 19, 2018 | Tyler Rogoway

Posted on 01/23/2018 7:50:51 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 01/23/2018 7:50:51 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Where can I get one?.......................


2 posted on 01/23/2018 7:55:02 AM PST by Red Badger (Wanna surprise? Google your own name. Wanna have fun? Google your friends names......)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I could use one to get my mail.


3 posted on 01/23/2018 8:05:32 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

So ... it's okay to sell a fleet of AH-1W Super Cobras on the international arms market ... but a U.S. citizen can't have an old M16 because it is fully automatic ...


4 posted on 01/23/2018 8:13:00 AM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: SgtHooper

I could use one to suppress those pesky ground rodents in the north field area.


5 posted on 01/23/2018 8:16:17 AM PST by Noumenon (It isn't racist if it's true, is it?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

In other news, we have redeployed A-10s to Afghanistan....


6 posted on 01/23/2018 8:19:31 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives......;-))
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To: Red Badger; humblegunner; 50mm

I want one.


7 posted on 01/23/2018 8:21:23 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Want

One

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8 posted on 01/23/2018 8:25:18 AM PST by tomkat
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To: so_real; sukhoi-30mki

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So ... it’s okay to sell a fleet of AH-1W Super Cobras on the international arms market ... but a U.S. citizen can’t have an old M16 because it is fully automatic ...
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Oh, We *can* have...it’s just that the beast created to defend our Rights is instead infringing upon and suppressing a myriad of ‘em instead.


9 posted on 01/23/2018 8:49:19 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: so_real

So ... it’s okay to sell a fleet of AH-1W Super Cobras on the international arms market ... but a U.S. citizen can’t have an old M16 because it is fully automatic ... “

Heck, where are those surplus 45 ACP 1911’s they owe us?!?!?


10 posted on 01/23/2018 8:57:27 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Red Badger

If you have over a 30 or 32 inch waist I doubt you’d be able to fit in the seat.

Any larger than that and you’d need a can opener to get out.


11 posted on 01/23/2018 9:02:05 AM PST by Rebelbase (1/12/18 read the word 'shithole' more times in one day than in my entire life up to that that point.)
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To: Rebelbase

I probably couldn’t get thru the door...............


12 posted on 01/23/2018 9:07:40 AM PST by Red Badger (Wanna surprise? Google your own name. Wanna have fun? Google your friends names......)
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To: Red Badger

I want to buy 6 of them, paint them different colors and race them as part of the EQABHL. (EQAndyBuzz Helicopter League)


13 posted on 01/23/2018 9:20:47 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Death of the MSM - "Because it is my show and I don't want to do that." Jake Tapper)
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I just want to paint them like ICE patrols and fly them all around......................


14 posted on 01/23/2018 9:25:19 AM PST by Red Badger (Wanna surprise? Google your own name. Wanna have fun? Google your friends names......)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Why not ipgrade to the common standard? The AH64 Apache? Commonality and leading edge tech, so why buy another (legacy type) airframe?

Is the rift between Big Green and Corps so deep and wide?

If the USMC is interested in firepower survivability and lethality, the 64 covers that niche well- if they don’t want all the bells and whistles ( long bow stuff) then a base 64 with guns and rockets and missiles would be cheaper than building a new platform, no?

Edumacate me.... Is the 64 too much bird, too costly, too capable for the MAGTF/MEF?


15 posted on 01/23/2018 9:33:29 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

One last point- In AGF, we had to rely on slick cobras in the mountains, guns only, and almost no loiter because they could not lift themselves and any significant combat load in the thin air. Apaches came fully heavy and had plenty of loiter ( fuel as well). You can get a S-cobra to go as fast as an Long bow loaded/Apache if you disarm it....


16 posted on 01/23/2018 9:37:46 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Rebelbase

Naw, as an old AH-1 Armament Dawg, I’m here to tell you that we had plenty of fat Warrant Officers in our F models.


17 posted on 01/23/2018 10:07:48 AM PST by rivercat
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Apache has had some horrific problems operating in an marine (as in ocean) environment, for starters. The AH-64A was evaluated in a naval role by multiple countries including the UK, Canada and Japan as well as the US. While the US program was cut short by lack of funding, none of the other countries found the chopper held up well in a seaborne environment and scrapped the idea.

The AH-64D version has had some interest in trying it again - the US has trialed it on multiple Navy ships in 2013 and the Brits flew them off HMS Ocean in 2011 during their operations in Libya, but again nobody seems to think this would be a good idea long term. The Brit version that’s built under license/from kits is even navalized and has folding rotor blades for use and storage on RN vessels, but that hasn’t worked out that well in practice.

Another issue is logistics - the Viper has commonality with the current Huey variant in service today (which itself is recent) and a lot of other USMC rotorcraft. Less parts to stock or haul around.


18 posted on 01/23/2018 10:16:15 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: rivercat

Did you have to use a can opener to remove them from the cockpit?


19 posted on 01/23/2018 10:44:55 AM PST by Rebelbase (1/12/18 read the word 'shithole' more times in one day than in my entire life up to that that point.)
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To: Red Badger

LOL! still LOL as I type ...


20 posted on 01/23/2018 10:59:19 AM PST by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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