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Will Germany modernize the Leopards for Afrin?
ANF News ^ | Saturday, 20 Jan 2018, 11:15 | ANF BERLIN

Posted on 01/21/2018 7:03:27 AM PST by Texas Fossil

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To: Texas Fossil

These updates mean nothing unless they equip the tanks with the latest defenses against antitank weapons. A Leopard 2 is just as much of a sitting duck as an M 60 unless the tankers can defend themselves against incoming antitank missiles that have top attack capabilities. Since this anti-antitank technology is fairly new, I don’t know if Germany will share it with the Turks, but this is modern Germany we are talking about.


21 posted on 01/21/2018 10:41:05 AM PST by yawningotter
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Thank you for the hint about what is strategically important in tank design.

I know that the threat of modern weapons morph with each technological stage.

What we witness, Turkey’s tanks and planes are some of the better in the Middle East. We’ve seen that false sense of security evaporate in Saddams Iraq and the 6 day war. What was an apparent strength vanished and became a killing field.

May we always have the brightest people in our weapons industry and that of our real allies. Turkey is not one of them.

No sane modern nation should ever share technology with faux allies like Turkey under Erdogan.

I’m no longer sure that Europe or the US is always sane as to how we weigh these things. ComDem insanity has contributed to this greatly.


22 posted on 01/21/2018 10:56:53 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Former Proud Canadian; BenLurkin; Kaslin; LS; SJackson

True, true. Turkey’s role in NATO planning and wartime actions is it’s threat to Russia’s southern-southeatern border, and it’s close distance for radar surveillance, airbases, and the longer-distance threat from its airbases towards the southern-southeastern Russian oil fields.

So, Turkey is (was, certainly) useful to NATO in the past.
Today?
Well, Merkel is so pro-Muslim-invasion as head of Germany, that Erdogan’s far-Muslim politics weighs all else. If Turkey were NOT pro-radical Islam, then I’m not sure why Merkel would want to do anything Turkey prefers. (Other than as a customer for the Germany’s tank programs.)

Still, Turkey and Germany have been allies since the 1910-1914’s when Germany got Turkey warships, troop commanders, rail lines and industrial beginnings, and influence over the Balkan-Bosnian-Straits-Black Sea. History tells.


23 posted on 01/21/2018 12:37:59 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Texas Fossil
I know the difference.

Lol...sure you do.


24 posted on 01/21/2018 1:26:56 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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I don’t need a photo.

Syrian Kurds are not Islamist Jihadi’s. PERIOD.


25 posted on 01/21/2018 5:40:54 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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