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What if diversity isn't America's strength?
LA Times ^ | 1/15/2018

Posted on 01/18/2018 12:57:23 AM PST by Altura Ct.

Sen. Lindsey Graham says he scolded the president for saying something scatological about certain countries and their immigrants. “Diversity has always been our strength,” he allegedly said. By my count, this makes Graham the bazillionth person to proclaim some variant of “diversity is strength.”

Is it true? I think the only close to right answer is, “it depends.” Specifically, it depends on what — often clichéd — analogy you have in mind. Diverse stock portfolios are more resilient. Diverse diets are healthier. But that doesn’t mean picking bad stocks will make you richer or that eating spoiled foods is good for you.

I once heard Jesse Jackson explain that racial integration of the NBA made it stronger and better. He was right. But would gender integration of the NBA have the same effect? Would diversifying professional basketball by height? Probably not.

All of these analogies can take you only so far. Thomas Sowell once said, “The next time some academics tell you how important diversity is, ask how many Republicans there are in their sociology department.”

There’s a growing body of evidence that even if diversity— the kind that results from immigration — once made America stronger, it may not be doing so anymore. Robert Putnam, a liberal sociologist at Harvard, found that increased diversity corrodes civil society by eroding shared values, customs and institutions. People tend to “hunker down” and retreat from civil society, at least in the short and medium term.

There’s a growing body of evidence that even if diversity— the kind resulting from immigration — once made America stronger, it may not be doing so anymore.

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To: Altura Ct.

Some things are intuitively obvious.

What if you really can’t learn much from cultures that are stuck in the 7th century?

What if the Clintons really aren’t good people?

What if the reason Obama hasn’t released a US birth certificate is because he doesn’t have one?


21 posted on 01/18/2018 3:00:57 AM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (The only trannie I want to see is a Muncie 4 speed M-22 Rock Crusher)
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To: Altura Ct.

America has never been about diversity primarily. It’s always been about unity as an end result.


22 posted on 01/18/2018 3:16:40 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: rb22982

“Diversity of opinions is nearly always a good thing. That can be done with or without a variety of racial backgrounds. “

Universities have the opposite concept of diversity.

College campus “diversity” is where they all look different, and they all think exactly the same.


23 posted on 01/18/2018 3:24:37 AM PST by Reverend Wright (The CBC: Deceiving Canadians since 1936.)
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To: Altura Ct.

” Thomas Sowell once said, “The next time some academics tell you how important diversity is, ask how many Republicans there are in their sociology department.” “

Keeper.


24 posted on 01/18/2018 3:29:59 AM PST by smileyface (Things looking up in RED PA! I love President Trump!)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

What if Liberal Snowflakes read this thread?

Wouldn’t it increase their diversity?


25 posted on 01/18/2018 3:35:28 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 ( Thank GOD Hillary didn't get elected!)
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To: Altura Ct.

The problem is that the “immagrants” don’t want to become American Citizens. They want to reap our welfare rewards, not learn the language and customs of America, and make their little area into the same place they came from.
At least in the military, there is a forced common goal from people of all places. The way things are set up now, there is no incentive.


26 posted on 01/18/2018 3:39:18 AM PST by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: reed13k
Our strength has and always be Liberty and our success Faith in God.

Our strength has always been unity, liberty and faith in God.

27 posted on 01/18/2018 3:39:46 AM PST by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Altura Ct.

It is settled science you know. The consensus is in. Everybody agrees. There is your diversity.


28 posted on 01/18/2018 3:41:12 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Diversity is and always has been a burden, a curse, a cross to bear. It is our strength to be able to manage diversity and create unity.


29 posted on 01/18/2018 3:45:59 AM PST by jimfree (My17 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: Altura Ct.
One reason the Scandinavian countries prospered for years despite an onerous social welfare system is because these countries had a homogeneous population of intelligent, clean, industrious people. Even though there was a lot of "free" stuff, the system worked because the populace was intelligent enough not to abuse the system.

Flash forward to a hospital ER in Los Angeles 2018. It is filled wall to wall with snot nosed parasites who have no intention of paying for services.

Miguel, Rosita, Da'quarious, and Shaneesha don't give a damn. They have a "free" Medi-Cal card and are hell bent on getting their "free" stuff. Instead of buying some Tylenol and Gatorade and getting bed rest, they are going to tie up an ER with their snotty noses. And bill the tax payers a couple thousand dollars per visit for the honor.

An intelligent, genetically sound, homogeneous population is to be preferred to a population of random drug and alcohol addicted mentally deficient parasites and gibs-me-dats.
 

30 posted on 01/18/2018 3:47:20 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (CNN is fake news.)
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To: smileyface

Bump!


31 posted on 01/18/2018 3:50:10 AM PST by 4Liberty (illegal immigration is a "process" crime too....)
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To: Altura Ct.

Our strength is shared VALUES. In the USA, you can have American values regardless of origin, race, or sex. The first 200 years saw immigrants show up and embrace American values and it was our strength.

Not the diversity itself, but the values. That’s the key to the “DiS” argument.

So a hard working west African who just got off the plane and wants to be an American and participate in America is building strength more than a rich, white college student who hates everything about her country.

Diversity is Strength only if you examine the motives of the person and don’t just count their skin color. It is about individuals and not about groups.


32 posted on 01/18/2018 3:51:27 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Strength through superior firepower, and unity.


33 posted on 01/18/2018 4:08:20 AM PST by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Culture and Constitution... God Bless the Founding Fathers who created a system to hold ‘elites’ in check...


34 posted on 01/18/2018 4:08:40 AM PST by GOPJ (The press is fed by the FBI & CIA - YOUR tax dollars at work - propping up establishment democrats.)
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To: Boomer

Clarence Thomas was right when he recently said he couldn’t see anything that bound us together as a nation. We aren’t even two nations; we are one that is traditionally “American” (somewhat in the mindset of the Founding Fathers in terms of the role of government and individuals), and countless smaller ones on the left that can’t even agree on anything between themselves. Obama won when those smaller ones were ALL aligned, and Hillary lost when a couple of segments split off (Bernie/Jill Stein types, others that just stayed home).

Kudos to the FReeper who referred to the barriers all over NYC before any parades now as “diversity barriers”!


35 posted on 01/18/2018 4:12:50 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
I have a new one for that list:

Globalism is patriotism.

36 posted on 01/18/2018 4:14:39 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Altura Ct.
There’s a growing body of evidence that even if diversity— the kind that results from immigration — once made America stronger, it may not be doing so anymore.

Hugely shocked and pleased to see the LA Times do this.

37 posted on 01/18/2018 4:16:18 AM PST by MarMema
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To: Altura Ct.

This was in the LA Slimes?


38 posted on 01/18/2018 4:16:52 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Altura Ct.

Diversity? More like predators coming here for easy pickings... Comments from a Peace Corp volunteer.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/01/what_i_learned_in_peace_corps_in_africa_trump_is_right.html

Fr Link:

The Ten Commandments were not disobeyed – they were unknown. The value system was the exact opposite. You were supposed to steal everything you can to give to your own relatives. There are some Westernized Africans who try to rebel against the system. They fail.

We hear a lot about the kleptocratic elites of Africa. The kleptocracy extends through the whole society. My town had a medical clinic donated by international agencies. The medicine was stolen by the medical workers and sold to the local store. If you were sick and didn’t have money, drop dead. That was normal.

So here in the States, when we discovered that my 98-year-old father’s Muslim health aide from Nigeria had stolen his clothes and wasn’t bathing him, I wasn’t surprised. It was familiar.

In Senegal, corruption ruled, from top to bottom. Go to the post office, and the clerk would name an outrageous price for a stamp. After paying the bribe, you still didn’t know it if it would be mailed or thrown out. That was normal.

One of my most vivid memories was from the clinic. One day, as the wait grew hotter in the 110-degree heat, an old woman two feet from the medical aides – who were chatting in the shade of a mango tree instead of working – collapsed to the ground. They turned their heads so as not to see her and kept talking. She lay there in the dirt. Callousness to the sick was normal.


39 posted on 01/18/2018 4:25:37 AM PST by GOPJ (The press is fed by the FBI & CIA - YOUR tax dollars at work - propping up establishment democrats.)
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To: Altura Ct.
Immigration was once centered on the idea of the American 'melting pot' which would produce as its end product a population with a relatively similar set of shared values and goals.

In the past several decades however, two groups in particular have invaded our borders with no intention of ever subsuming their 'culture' of origin to become truly 'American'.

Moslems and Mexicans are, with few exceptions, latter-day Trojan Horses within our gates with the aim of plundering the storehouses and defiling the notion of true citizenship.

Of course there are some among both groups who honestly wish to assimilate, yet the actions and attitudes of the contrary many denigrate the efforts of the laudable few.

The current 'politically correct' concept of 'diversity', whether espoused from simple naivete on one end of the continuum, to crass venality on the other, is light years removed from, and antithetical to, the assumptions underlying America's historic welcome mat.

Absent the aforementioned shared values and goals, America is not a nation at all, but a cacophony of shrillness that's destined to implode.

40 posted on 01/18/2018 4:56:16 AM PST by tomkat
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