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38 Minutes in Hawaii: My Family and the False Missile Alarm (Amazing personal account)
The Stream ^ | January 14, 2018 | Jason Scott Jones

Posted on 01/15/2018 5:18:17 PM PST by EternalVigilance

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To: Liaison
RUMINT said that a 300 Kt was aimed at NORAD.

Way bigger than that and more than one. Estimated survival time of Cheyenne Mountain was 30-40 minutes.

101 posted on 01/15/2018 7:11:52 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: doorgunner69

FWIW, even a phone off contract can still receive - if you find them cheap enough. I have a couple - they were pay as you go. They’ve been offline for more than a year. They STILL receive the alerts at the level you program them to.

Though I have a couple other (cheap) phones - I keep these charged and on standby. Found out by accident they STILL do the alerts (storm in my area - Tornado watch). I set them to Presidential Alerts and keep one upstairs and one downstairs - I charge them about every 30 days - other than that - they just sit idle waiting for the alert we hope doesn’t come. But in this post-911 world, who knows?


102 posted on 01/15/2018 7:14:50 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Sequoyah101
I always wondered how or if the adults knew the air raid siren tests were really just tests.

The tests were scheduled monthly at noon on the same day. Back then the same sirens were used for tornado and other alerts so the tests were always performed in that mode. The sirens would cycle like a sine wave. That was the normal alert for standards alerts but for a nuclear attack the sirens would run continuously, not in the sine wave pattern. The continuous mode was not supposed to be used for a test.

103 posted on 01/15/2018 7:17:36 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: doorgunner69
Kyocera Verve slide phone - don't know if mine are Verve but they look pretty much like this. Mine were Virgin Mobile - I'd think you could find them used for $10 to $20 each, easily. Make sure they're Virgin Mobile - set them for Weather Alerts to test them. I'm charging both of my old phones now after typing this.

These phones DO NOT have service - yet still faithfully ring the weather alerts. I was stunned one night when they began going off (with my 2 other active phones, too). I miss the full keyboard, BTW.


104 posted on 01/15/2018 7:21:51 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: OldMissileer

Yeah, I think the Russkies had the 20 to 50 megaton aimed at Cheyenne Mountain.


105 posted on 01/15/2018 7:22:47 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: pfflier
I was doing Minuteman Missile maintenance at Malmstrom AFB near Great Falls MT. Part of the emergency plan was to go to a reconstitution site in the nearby mountains after a first strike.

I was on missile crew and then a Missile Maintenance Officer at Grand Forks. We all thought the recon locations were a joke.

106 posted on 01/15/2018 7:24:12 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: sparklite2

“The Soviets elected to ring Moscow, giving the lie to their no first strike claim.”

Yep. And the Soviets also cheated by deploying illegal radar installations in areas forbidden by the ABM treaty, as well as modifying their SAM missiles to give them ABM capabilities in areas not permitted by the treaty. So their ABM capabilities likely extended beyond Moscow to include various military installations.


107 posted on 01/15/2018 7:24:54 PM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: Elsie
Ditto - lived near Davis-Monthon AFB when it had B-36 and B-52s.

I think they are still there...

The only B-52s left at DM are in AMARG. I think the B36s were cut up decades ago and the B-52s are slowly being cut up too. I think most of the early models are all gone now.

All the G models are there and are going away. Too bad they didn't keep them for possible future use as they were great aircraft. Watching those old "Coal Burners" take off in a MITO was awe inspiring.

108 posted on 01/15/2018 7:29:59 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: SaveFerris

BTW those phones may say PayLo by Virgin Mobile on the screen when charged.


109 posted on 01/15/2018 7:30:07 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: sparklite2

“I grew up in Amarillo, which thanks to the helium reserve and Air Force base was number ten of the Soviet hit list”

I always laugh when i head the supposed rankings. Did the Soviets publish that annually?


110 posted on 01/15/2018 7:33:23 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Hardastarboard
them being oblivious of how many nuclear missiles were pointed at the exact spot where they were standing

Used to work on Ford Island in Pearl harbor and pondered how many nukes were targeted on taking out the Pacific fleet base.

The Project Azorian book about the Soviet missile subs tasked to sit offshore Hawaii to nuke it during the cold war. No warning with such short range missiles.

111 posted on 01/15/2018 7:36:50 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Give me the liberty to take care of my own security..........)
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To: Hardastarboard
I read a novel once about a soldier walking in the exact center of the Pentagon, thinking about the vendors there, and them being oblivious of how many nuclear missiles were pointed at the exact spot where they were standing.

Been there many times. There was a little open-air place at the dead center that sold snacks and was named "Ground Zero Cafe." Everybody, including the workers selling snacks, knew the score.

112 posted on 01/15/2018 7:38:46 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: stockpirate

Probably right


113 posted on 01/15/2018 7:40:54 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: DesertRhino

It was probably ‘what I would do if I was him.’


114 posted on 01/15/2018 7:49:42 PM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: RealVirginia

I grew up in the DC suburbs. I also never thought I would live to adulthood!.....Why would our enemies want to destroy DC? Where would they get their funding?


115 posted on 01/15/2018 7:54:24 PM PST by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: ASA Vet

“Was that Ft. Hancock, NJ?”

It was the Nike missile installation at Campgaw Mountain in Mahwah, about 50 miles northwest.


116 posted on 01/15/2018 7:55:37 PM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: Trumpnado2016

You are right, whenever the media mentions the Norks having nukes, remind everyone that Prez Clinton was their enabler.


117 posted on 01/15/2018 8:03:22 PM PST by ThankYouFreeRepublic (Philippines, expat, taxes)
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To: SKI NOW

Remember this video after the terrorist attact in Paris? The father said to his frighten son who wanted to leave, we are French, we don’t have to change house or fight, because we have
flowers and candles”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAbw5JlS6SE


118 posted on 01/15/2018 8:10:00 PM PST by ThankYouFreeRepublic (Philippines, expat, taxes)
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To: OldMissileer

There is the answer. Thanks.

It used to scare the crap out of me. We would be out playing and the sirens would go off.

My Dad was a shelter manager so I knew more than was probably good for me about the plan and effects forecast. At least every year we would do an in place shelter drill for a weekend with a bunch of other families. It was interesting but not fun. I wonder how the participants were selected?

Atlas didn’t last long did it? I remember some of the Corps of Engineers people we worked with went down to Altus to build silos. Some were never occupied by weapons.

I also remember the aluminum overcast headed north from Carswell and other bases. They would often refuel B-36 formations, then B-47s over our county. I’m sure the operation covered a much longer tanker track than that. The were very high and you could hardly hear them.


119 posted on 01/15/2018 8:12:19 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Ahhh the dreaded elevator work cage. I hated that damn thing.

Remember to hook your safety lanyard over the top bar and above the hook or its a UQ.

120 posted on 01/15/2018 8:15:30 PM PST by pfflier
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