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1 posted on 01/10/2018 3:31:56 PM PST by springwater13
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I heard Sara Carter and Hannity talking on his radio show today and they both said and hinted that something about the FISA document will be revealed in Congress next week that will be shocking and very concerning for some people in charge. Could this be it? That this Hillary inspired dossier was the key to get FISA warrant?


36 posted on 01/10/2018 4:12:29 PM PST by Bigtigermike (D)
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Was the DNC/Clinton campaign-funded dossier used to obtain Trump FISA warrant?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thats the money question.

Thousands of Freepers have been asking that same question
ever since the unmasking issue in relation to Flynn was revealed to the public about 9 months ago.

We are still waiting for an answer.


40 posted on 01/10/2018 4:18:10 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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IS there a FISA warrant?

We know it was denied once.


42 posted on 01/10/2018 4:18:29 PM PST by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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Short answer, No! The spying was done without the sanction of a court and was completely illegal if we are to believe Jim Clapper’s answers in 2017 on MTP and CNN w/Don Lemmon. If my suspicion is true there is real criminal liability and this is why I believe Obama has been very silent these days!


46 posted on 01/10/2018 4:25:16 PM PST by GWB00 (Barbara Streisand barely made it out of high school.)
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None Dare Call It Treason


48 posted on 01/10/2018 4:33:13 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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The news cycle and same BS is groundhog day.


50 posted on 01/10/2018 4:38:05 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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I figure Trump knew he was being surveilled from the start and countered it. So they can go stew in their fancy surveillance methods.


52 posted on 01/10/2018 5:30:51 PM PST by ichabod1 (People don't want to believe it be what it be but it is.)
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this is what police/prosecutors do. The give themselves an anonymous tip and the create a fictional thread of “we would find it anyways”.

If Mueller could really find a case he would have to resort to ham fisted misrepresentations to investigators.


54 posted on 01/10/2018 5:40:00 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.tand http://www.house.gov)
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Arrest indict and execute!


56 posted on 01/10/2018 5:46:58 PM PST by Professional
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I believe the Obama administration was surveilling Trump world even before they got the FISA warrant. It was only after they got caught by Admiral Rodgers, that they went to plan B, which was to use the dossier to get a FISA warrant.


57 posted on 01/10/2018 6:05:54 PM PST by FreeReign
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Thanks for posting. Sounds like the Treehouse guess today that there might not have even been a warrant at all, is possibly overridden by Sara’s reporting. So we can revert back to their previous timelines and dates of estimation for the warrant(s)...

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/03/occams-razor-did-nsa-admiral-mike-rogers-warn-trump-on-november-17th-2016/

The DOJ National Security Division set Admiral Mike Rogers up to take the fall for their unlawful conduct. They preempted Rogers by filing a notification with the FISA Court on 26th September 2016 (look at the pdf). DOJ-NSD head John P Carlin was setting up Rogers as the scapegoat while knowing the NSA FISA compliance officer was still reviewing their conduct. Carlin wouldn’t notify the court unless he was trying to cover something. Carlin then announced his resignation. The NSA compliance officer did not brief Admiral Rogers until 20th Oct 2016.

The NSA compliance officer identified several strange 702 “About Queries” that were being conducted. These were violations of the fourth amendment (search and seizure), ie. unlawful surveillance and gathering. Admiral Rogers was briefed by the compliance officer on October 20th, 2016.

Admiral Mike Rogers ordered the “About Query” activity to stop, reported the activity to the DOJ, and then went to the FISA court.

On October 26th, 2016, full FISC assembly, NSA Director Rogers personally informed the court of the 702(17) violations. Additionally, Rogers also stopped “About Query” permanently.

Ten days after the election, November 17th 2016, Admiral Rogers travels to Trump Tower without telling ODNI James Clapper.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/03/occams-razor-did-nsa-admiral-mike-rogers-warn-trump-on-november-17th-2016/

June 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration files a request with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to monitor communications involving Donald Trump and several advisers. The request, uncharacteristically, is denied.

October 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found — but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons, Andrew McCarthy at National Review later notes. The Obama administration is now monitoring an opposing presidential campaign using the high-tech surveillance powers of the federal intelligence services.

On Tuesday November 8th, 2016 the election was held. Results announced Wednesday November 9th, 2016.

NSA Director Rogers participates in session at Intelligence and National Security Summit in Washington. On Thursday November 17th, 2016, NSA Director Mike Rogers traveled to New York and met with President-Elect Donald Trump.


59 posted on 01/10/2018 6:31:02 PM PST by Golden Eagle (Trump: "I'm disappointed in the Attorney General. He shouldn't have recused himself...")
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Sundance Belize that they did not even have a fisa warrant. Based on the evidence that he laid out, I agree. If this is true, it’s a whole new ballgame.


61 posted on 01/10/2018 7:23:56 PM PST by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat)
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62 posted on 01/10/2018 7:25:44 PM PST by bitt (We donÂ’t need an electric chair, we need electric bleachers.)
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Better question: “Was there ever a FISA warrant?”


63 posted on 01/10/2018 7:27:02 PM PST by BAW (There is a Storm coming.)
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Getting the cart before the horse.

Was there a warrant of any kind whatsoever? I’ve heard talk of one but nothing that proves one exists.


65 posted on 01/10/2018 8:38:59 PM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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This is already verified. There is enough evidence to charge people and arrest them. Let the perp walks begin, already!

MAGA by cleaning out the criminals.

69 posted on 01/10/2018 9:56:20 PM PST by Ken Regis
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>> the dossier played “a significant role” in obtaining the warrant

Corruption of the worst kind. Is this not a form of sedition?


73 posted on 01/10/2018 11:11:19 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Hannity: Politicization of US intel is the real scandal

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5707425707001/?playlist_id=930909813001#sp=show-clips

Reps. Meadows and Jordan demand access to dossier docs

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5707425213001/?playlist_id=930909813001#sp=show-clips


78 posted on 01/11/2018 3:06:33 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather
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The whole story is a mess. Wasn’t it just yesterday that the though was that a FISA warrant wasn’t issued. And that our foggy bottom guys asked the UK foggy bottom guys to dig up the dirt with our own Intel since it wasn’t against the law for them to do it but would be if our guys did, or something to that effect?


82 posted on 01/11/2018 3:47:25 AM PST by DAC21
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The cover story of "national security" used to spy on Trump might hold for the investigating agencies, but if it can be proven that any of the data gleaned from such "investigation" found its way to the Clinton campaign... well, I'd bet Clinton will then truly throw Huma under the bus.

I do wonder if Seth Rich was murdered because he found out about this "investigation" and the funneling of data to Clinton's campaign.....

86 posted on 01/11/2018 4:49:32 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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