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Bannon Goes Belly-Up and the Stock Market Soars
Townhall.com ^ | Jan 06, 2018 | Larry Kudlow

Posted on 01/06/2018 9:43:21 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

There were two big money-and-politics stories in the first week of the new year: The Dow Jones soared 577 points and Steve Bannon ended his political career.

Are these two events related? Perhaps more than you might think.

Bannon’s peculiar notions of populism were essentially anti-growth. He believed higher taxes, ultra-protectionism, and a cheap dollar would help the middle class. Supply-siders like me know these policies only damage the economy, with the middle and lower classes suffering the most.

And though Bannon was pushed out of the White House months ago, he apparently still had the president’s ear. So his influence has continued to worry investors and business.

But Bannon went belly-up politically this week, and the stock market soared. And some are calling it the Bannon-is-gone rally.

This is an over simplification. There are many positives driving shares higher, including the Trump tax cuts and the expected rise of business profits, the mother’s milk of stocks.

But Bannon was never a strong advocate of the Trump tax-cut plan. Instead, he wanted to raise income taxes for successful earners, from 40 to 44 percent.

Steve Moore, Art Laffer, and I had numerous conversations with Bannon, trying to talk him out of this. President Trump, we argued, would end Obama’s wars on success and business with policies that generate faster economic growth.

How does punishing upper-income people help spur investment or job creation? How does hurting the so-called rich help the middle class? Those are Democrat arguments, and failing ones at that.

A rising ride lifts all boats. JFK, Jack Kemp, and Ronald Reagan believed it. So does Donald Trump.

Would you rather have 2 percent or 4 percent growth? The answer is 4 percent.

But raising income tax rates at the top end --as president Obama did, and Bannon wanted to -- gets you back to 2 percent growth.

Bannon never really understood the incentive model of growth. Rewarding entrepreneurs is the key to prosperity. In this sense, everybody’s in the same boat.

Bannon also was lukewarm on the corporate-tax-cut package. He never bought into the argument that slashing large and small business taxes predominantly benefits wage earners. In fact, everyone benefits: upper, middle, lower.

It’s called making the pie larger.

Late one afternoon, Steve Bannon tried to make a deal with Steve Moore and me in his office: “If you guys back my 44 percent top tax rate, I’ll support your 15 percent corporate tax rate.” We wouldn’t buy it. It made no economic-growth sense.

The fact that Bannon would see us frequently speaks well of him. He was always accessible, friendly, and good humored -- even in debate.

I enjoyed our friendship. He’s been welcome in our Connecticut home. My criticism of his policies is not personal.

That said, backstabbing the president and his family in a book -- Fire and Fury, by Michael Wolff -- was a terrible mistake. As a result, his political career has gone up in flames.

But the market’s up and Bannon’s down. There’s a connection.

Bannon is not only opposed to pro-growth tax-rate relief. He’s a fierce ultra-protectionist. He wants no new trade deals and higher tariffs.

He has argued that the Chinese are guilty of currency manipulation and must be heavily penalized. But the Chinese yuan has appreciated substantially in recent years. So by implication, Bannon was arguing for a cheaper dollar.

Well, no country ever devalued its currency into prosperity.

You know who gets hurt most by tariff taxes? The middle class, paying much higher prices for daily living needs. All manner of businesses also suffer, as imports are choked by tariffs and quotas.

Bannon even favored the border adjustment tax, which would have jacked up import prices. But favoring high tariffs and a crumbling dollar was his worst economic mistake.

So Bannon commits political suicide and the stock market cheers. It’s not far-fetched.

There are many definitions of populism. But I think American populism is a belief that the citizenry should be empowered, not the government. I can agree with Steve Bannon here, in particular when he criticizes crony capitalism and the swamp of money for lobbyist favors.

But I’m not sure Bannon buys into the free-market capitalist model.

Wage earners have suffered over the last 20 years, and the answer is not high tariffs and taxes. The answer is to make America great again by lifting the burden of taxation, regulation, and unlimited government, and restoring a far-reaching, long-lasting prosperity.

Prosperity is American populism. And that’s the President Trump way.

I hope Steve Bannon will reflect on his downfall and revisit these prosperity lessons. In life, doors close and doors open. We can learn from our mistakes and move on to better times.

A smart guy like Bannon should work to help us, not harm us.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bannon; djia; fourth100days; kudlow; trump; trumpeconomy
The key for 2018 is the economy. Dems, selfish turds that they are, will be hoping that the economy tanks before the midterms, the people be damned. If it doesn't the GOP will gain seats and make things even better than they were in Trump's first year.
1 posted on 01/06/2018 9:43:21 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Bannon is finished..No one with money,or a candidate will get near him..He’s the black death...That Chinese sugar daddy he found won’t stay long,once he realizes Bannon is toxic..There is no power,no matter how many millions are given to bannon....


2 posted on 01/06/2018 9:55:52 PM PST by Hambone 1934
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

3 posted on 01/06/2018 10:29:11 PM PST by conservative98
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
"Bannon’s peculiar notions of populism were essentially anti-growth. He believed higher taxes, ultra-protectionism, and a cheap dollar would help the middle class."

Kudlow spills the beans once again. Internationally, the dollar will go down the easy way or the hard way. Before long, most investors will wish that they had brought more manufacturing home. For most, it will be too late by then. A much more distributed production base will happen.

And is Bannon really in favor of higher taxes? Austerity measures will also happen, probably to include both big government layoffs and higher taxes. I don't like higher taxes, but there are many who like the protections provided for their established ways of getting incomes by many expensive government programs.


4 posted on 01/06/2018 10:49:05 PM PST by familyop ("...you're the son of a thousand fathers..." -Tuco, "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly")
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To: Hambone 1934

Kudlow is a fan of NAFTA, and never (that I’ve heard) talks about the need to cut immigration. No surprise that he’s glad Bannons gone


5 posted on 01/06/2018 10:49:20 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Bannon and the economic agenda he supports are two different things.


6 posted on 01/06/2018 10:53:48 PM PST by Architect of Avalon
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Larry Kudlow is a globalist wall street type. An early #neverTrumper who were among the 20 NRO “conservative” scholars who sworn opposing Trump. Yeah, tax cut for Wall Street is fine, but people like Kudlow will never support Trump’s other agenda like immigration and fair trade. If Trump doesn’t follow on these promises, he is an one termer. Of course, Kudlow people wouldn’t care.


7 posted on 01/06/2018 10:56:04 PM PST by Rebel2016
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Nearing $21 trillion.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/state-debt-clocks/state-of-california-debt-clock.html

Over $425 billion.

Everybody’s gone surfin’, surfin’ debt U.S.A. [See Venezuela, increasing tolerance for drug slavery, white slavery, i.e., prostitution slavery, ever more likely nukefest, inevitable decimation of population by way of epidemics, who has true ultimate control over everything: everyone.]


8 posted on 01/06/2018 10:59:25 PM PST by familyop ("...you're the son of a thousand fathers..." -Tuco, "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly")
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Attributing the increase in the Dow to Bannon’s fall from grace is a stretch of the highest order. As best I recall, Bannon suggested a possible increase in marginal rates for very rich people, but I don’t believe he ever strayed from the belief that corporate rates should be lowered to the 20% range.


9 posted on 01/06/2018 11:00:10 PM PST by be-baw (still seeking...)
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I just heard TRUMP say Sloppy Steve was the IDIOT that brought Wolffe into The White House!!!



Sloppy Steve brought him into The White House!!!



IDIOT! I am DONE with this MORON!!!



10 posted on 01/06/2018 11:34:12 PM PST by KavMan
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To: Hambone 1934

he wanted a 44% tax rate???? OMG!! He is NUTS!


11 posted on 01/07/2018 3:32:10 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: conservative98

This man is a POS, His hair is unkempt, he has not shaven recently, he is fat, and he generally looks bad.


12 posted on 01/07/2018 5:35:50 AM PST by american_ranger (Our family motto is being miserable builds character.)
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To: conservative98
That is such an awful picture of Bannon. I wonder if it is photo-shopped. He's got red all over his face, open sores under his lips and even his shirt collar appears to be blood stained. A real mess. If this is a real picture, he should go see a doctor. Seriously. Man does not look healthy.

Anyway, if Bannon was really proposing a 44% tax rate on "successful earners", than I could not disagree more. Punishing the successful with onerous tax rates is the main reason so much of our wealth has gone offshore. When the "rich" have more money in their accounts, guess what? More yachts and mansions get built. More money is spent in pricey restaurants. More luxury cars are sold. And all of this helps the working man by creating more jobs in the "luxury" industries that liberals love to beat up on (even as they take full advantage of these luxuries for themselves).

Same with corporate tax rates. We are already seeing the benefits of that. Employees are getting year end bonuses. Corporations like Apple are bringing offshore money back to America.

Winning!

Sad about Steve Bannon. Sounds like he made some bad decisions. There are still some that say that Bannon is covertly working with Trump undercover to undermine and destroy the fake media and that this "Fire and Fury" kerfuffle is all part of some master plan that will become evident later. I want to believe but I'm skeptical. My take is that Bannon overestimated his own importance in the grand scheme of things and really stepped in it.

In the meantime, Bannon should take care of his health. He looks positively awful. I sincerely hope that he gets himself taken care of. Overall, I still think he's a decent guy.

13 posted on 01/07/2018 5:59:52 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Katy Perry changes her outfit and the stock market soars.


14 posted on 01/07/2018 6:18:24 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberals have become moralistic, dogmatic, sententious, self-righteous, pinch-faced prudes.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Bannon reminds me of some of our own “principled conservatives”. They have their own rigid view that can never be implemented w/o actual dictatorial tyranny but they insist it is “the only way” and are willing to lose much in the hopes that someday they will lose enough that the “inevitable civil war” will arise and they will be able to “righteously” kill those who oppose them and start “fresh”...


15 posted on 01/07/2018 6:21:35 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone? I think Trump may give it back...)
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