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To: JimRed

JimRed, that kind of story plays out for each of the 30 million illegal immigrants in the nation.

When citizens need a job, they often times can’t find it, because another person who was willing to work for half the wages, has taken it.

When housing is taken up by these people, it leaves a much higher occupancy rate. That causes upward pressure on rents or even home ownership.

When these people are used to the living standard in their old country, they are willing to live three families to a single family dwelling in order to pay 1/3rd of the house payments each, thus competing with our single family dwellers.

This not only drives up property prices forcing out American citizens, and it lowers the property values as the homes and properties are trashed. They’re used to living under much worse conditions, so they don’t know how to keep property up.

Our schools are overcrowded, and many times by children that cannot speak our language. If there is enough of them in the school, they can actually gang up against the white citizen children. I had this happen to my own children. This resulted in a $300 monthly impact at the time, which put a real hardship on us. We had to put our kids in private school.

I could go on for quite a while raising issues. I don’t need to. We have immigration laws put in place to avoid these situations. There IS NO VALID EXCUSE to ignore them.

Let me ask you, if I go out and employ low level tactics to bilk money away from unsuspecting people, would it be okay as long as I had a family at home to feed, house, clothe, and support in other ways? Should I be able to run ‘guess which cup the ball is under’ or ‘Three Card Money’ games with impunity?

What you have just presented is an argument that would play out over each of the 30 million people illegally here. Hey you have a soft spot. Everyone else does. Why not just let them stay? Right?

Should I have to follow traffic laws? Should I have to pay my bills? Should I have to do any of a thousand things I don’t really like all that much? Why should I? Do you think this causes our society to get better or more course.

What you are advocating is the opening of our borders to all comers. Once you get here, you’re just such a tragic situation that we’ll grant you permission to stay.

Meanwhile, your grandchildren will be dealing with people who vote about 80% for Democrats. They will no longer be a part of the majority race here. Have you seen the problems we already have with regard to race? Multiply that by ten.

What is your prognosis for a nation like that? Better, or much much much worse?

I don’t want to be mean to people, but I did not put them in this position. They did. Now they want to be granted leniency and consideration, after literally thumbing their nose at the laws of my nation, and indirectly me.

30 million is roughly 30% of Mexico’s population. Granted only about 65-70% of our illegals are from there, but think of the massive political power you are handing these people. And if they pull the wool over our eyes here by blinking theirs and acting all sorrowful about having to face the penalty for what they have done, our way of life will be over shortly.

How about giving some thought to this and the future citizens in about 20 years time. You are expressing a willingness to screw them into the dirt here. We’re talking about your and my grand-kids.

Not buying it.

Look JimRed, I’m not angry with you. You raise a point that has to be addressed. I’m choosing to think of our own citizen’s today and on into the future.


13 posted on 01/04/2018 11:10:41 AM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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To: DoughtyOne
What you are advocating is the opening of our borders to all comers.

Funny; I didn't notice this.


When these people are used to the living standard in their old country, they are willing to live three families to a single family dwelling in order to pay 1/3rd of the house payments each, thus competing with our single family dwellers.

How does this 'compete'?


They’re used to living under much worse conditions, so they don’t know how to keep property up.

Strange; isn't it; that so many manage to find work 'keeping up property' of others.

Gardners and landscapers and drywall guys and painters and...

All doing the work that 'Americans won't do'.

14 posted on 01/05/2018 4:11:57 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DoughtyOne
What you are advocating is the opening of our borders to all comers. Once you get here, you’re just such a tragic situation that we’ll grant you permission to stay.

Not so. Only for some compassion for a number of people who are already here, who had no say in their arrival, and meet the criteria as "keepers". No newer arrivals (anyone who was brought here after DACA became Obammunist policy) qualify.

Once a WALL is completed that problem will be reduced by 90%+ anyway. I've advocated for a wall since about the mid-1980s, though I have backed off on the minefields at the border. Like I said, getting soft.

15 posted on 01/05/2018 10:34:08 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: DoughtyOne
So well stated!

It's a no-win scenario for us, and a no-lose for them.

Being stuck in that position really PI$$ES me off.

So I no longer feel compassion for those who create a bad situation, then appeal to me to bail them out.

Those 'dreamers' got a much better lifestyle than they deserved. They're ahead.

27 posted on 01/06/2018 5:40:45 AM PST by gogeo
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