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To: robroys woman
How can he lose? He’s right.

Maybe he doesn't have standing? Said sarcastically, because none of us had standing to protest the obvious harm done by Obama's natural citizen standing, even though he was doing his best to screw the country.

5 posted on 01/03/2018 12:34:19 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Maybe he doesn't have standing? Said sarcastically, because none of us had standing to protest the obvious harm done by Obama’s [lack of?] natural citizen standing, even though he was doing his best to screw the country.
The more that I think about it, it is the state governments who have the authority and responsibility to prevent the election of an ineligible to the presidency and/or vice presidency. Why? Because not the people but the States elect the president.
Article II Section 1:
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
The upshot is that the legislature of each state has the authority, and therefore the responsibility, to prevent selection of people who will vote for a non-citizen by each state's own definition or a violator of the Emoluments Clause (which Hillary so obviously was as Secretary of State) to be its Electors. If you are dissatisfied with your state’s behavior in allowing Barak Husein Obama on the ballot and a slate of Elector candidates who were pledged to vote for him in the Electoral College, NOW is the time - before it is a question of excluding known individuals from the 2020 ballot - for your state’s legislature to hear about your concerns.

You don’t have any say in what other states do, but the reality is that even one major “purple” state which typically goes for the winning candidate in most elections - Ohio is an example - could control the issue. Which party is going to spot the other party Ohio before the voting even starts? If you could throw Michigan and Pennsylvania into the same category, no party would ever, under any circumstance, nominate someone who violated their standards for access to their ballots.

If Ohio, PA, and MI were to define “natural born citizen” for themselves in a way that excluded, say, Ted Cruz, that would be that. End of discussion. Ted Cruz could not then draw flies in any Republican primary contest - not just those states - because the Republican voters would know that nominating him was not a serious option. (Disclaimer: I supported Ted Cruz in ’16).

Recall the controversy in ’16 over Hillary’s health. I put it to you that a state or consortium of states could require all presidential candidates to submit to some sort of physical exam which would exclude a neuologically impaired individual from the ballot. But you can’t wait to install that system until a particular known person’s ox is being gored, or you will have no chance of getting your law passed anywhere.


39 posted on 01/03/2018 1:11:03 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
"Maybe he doesn't have standing? Said sarcastically, because none of us had standing to protest the obvious harm done by Obama's natural citizen standing, even though he was doing his best to screw the country."

None of the people that actually filed suit had standing. There were people that did, but they didn't sue. Probably because they didn't believe in fairy tales.

47 posted on 01/03/2018 1:27:58 PM PST by mlo
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