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The Great Experiment
National Review ^ | January 2, 2018 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 01/02/2018 12:47:05 PM PST by billorites

Edited on 01/02/2018 1:26:07 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

We’ve gone from hard left, under Obama, to hard right, under Trump. Judge the ideologies by their results.

Most new administrations do not really completely overturn their predecessors’ policies to enact often-promised ideologically driven change.

The 18-year span of Harry Truman to Dwight Eisenhower to John F. Kennedy was mostly a continuum from center-left to center-right, back to center-left. Kennedy was probably as hawkish and as much of a tax cutter as was Eisenhower.


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1 posted on 01/02/2018 12:47:05 PM PST by billorites
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To: billorites

Ronald Reagan was NOT “right-wing.”

Small government is NOT right wing.

Free markets are NOT right wing.

Fighting totalitarians is NOT right wing.


2 posted on 01/02/2018 12:50:03 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: billorites

Hell, anything that’s not liberal is “hard” right to you clowns at NR....


3 posted on 01/02/2018 12:50:11 PM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: billorites

President trump has many fine attributes but is hardly “hard right.”


4 posted on 01/02/2018 12:51:10 PM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians aren’t born, they’re excreted.” -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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Hell, anything that’s not liberal is “hard” right to you clowns at NR....

Exactly, I had to stop reading.

I thought Victor Davis Hanson was smarter than this. We can't trust any of them because their world view is corrupted.

5 posted on 01/02/2018 12:54:33 PM PST by donna ( Mayday (No More PC Lectures) www.balintvazsonyi.org/other/mayday.html)
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To: BenLurkin

I was against trump because I did not believe he was conservative. Boy, was I wrong. I love what he’s doing and he’s not just cleaning house. He’s detailing it. He didn’t need to move the embassy in Israel, but he did. He didn’t need to cut off funding to the Palestinians, but he did. He didn’t need to get out of the paris accord, but he did.

He’s nailing ALL of my pet peeve issues without waiting for people to call for action anew. I would not be the least bit surprised if he took us out of the UN.

Sanity has returned. I forgot what it felt like.


6 posted on 01/02/2018 12:56:06 PM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: billorites

I’m very surprised VDH thinks Trump is hard right...

He is on certain issues, but hardly overall...


7 posted on 01/02/2018 12:57:41 PM PST by Popman (My sin was great, Your love was greater  What could separate us now…)
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To: billorites

Jug-ears pulled us so hard to the left that getting back to center-right looks “hard” right.


8 posted on 01/02/2018 12:57:44 PM PST by kosciusko51
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To: billorites
We’ve gone from hard left, under Obama, to hard right, under Trump.

Well, Obama was certainly an ultra-hard leftist but President Trump is nowhere near hard right.

How sad we have fallen so low that a man who expresses his patriotism and demonstrates his respect for the US Constitution and for the laws of the land is disparaged as being a hard-right extremist.


9 posted on 01/02/2018 1:00:54 PM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (United We Stand, Divided We Fall. Remember That Diversity Is The Opposite Of Unity.)
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To: donna

I like Victor, but he’s overrated.


10 posted on 01/02/2018 1:06:20 PM PST by LongWayHome
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I thought I liked him, too. But, what’s to like?

He thinks pre-Trump is just fine.


11 posted on 01/02/2018 1:10:53 PM PST by donna ( Mayday (No More PC Lectures) www.balintvazsonyi.org/other/mayday.html)
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To: billorites

Wow. The first half of the article, the takedown of Obama, pure gold.

I live to read things like this.

This really drives the point home - had we elected a moderate such as Jeb, Mitt, or any of those clowns - Obama’s legacy would have been cemented in place forever.


12 posted on 01/02/2018 1:12:14 PM PST by keat
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To: BenLurkin

All of that is true, but it looks that way to them. However, they are at least recognizing some important things about Trump and the people who elected him.

One thing that I thought was interesting was that they said a “conventional” conservative - that is, a squeaky clean, polite guy with the right opinions but no slash and burn mentality - could not have won. And they’re right.

I didn’t like Trump’s approach, but I did vote for him and now I’m very happy about his actions. And at the same time, I think a lot of people voted for him who would never have voted for the same old same old “conservative,” because like GWB, these conservatives have a proven track record of giving away the store and kowtowing to everybody. Trump doesn’t and that’s the difference.


13 posted on 01/02/2018 1:12:18 PM PST by livius
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“I would not be the least bit surprised if he took us out of the UN.”


I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t.

Like he’s done so many times before, he’s laying the ground work, and will eventually achieve his goal. He’s making the UN awfully upset and, worse, cut their allowance.

Something’s gotta give.


14 posted on 01/02/2018 1:15:29 PM PST by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: donna

Just my guess, but he fell in line with most of the rest of the clowns at the National Review to keep his job. He & Andy McCarthy were the only ones over there who were somewhat rational on Trump.


15 posted on 01/02/2018 1:16:32 PM PST by LongWayHome
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16 posted on 01/02/2018 1:21:02 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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“unregretful conservatism”

Much batter than ‘hard right’.

And it’s about time.


17 posted on 01/02/2018 1:26:57 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: billorites

From collectivist Obama, to a less collectivist Trump. In truth, Obama was instituting a soft Communist revolution.


18 posted on 01/02/2018 1:34:17 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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To: billorites

Wow, my parents and grandparents were extremely hard right, I guess, but I always thought them more in the middle.

Today’s proggies are so far left, they make the 1960’s New Left look centrist.


19 posted on 01/02/2018 1:34:23 PM PST by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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I wish to be "Picky, picky, picky."

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"that GDP could ever hit 3 percent or above" is a nonsensical statement. What should be said is 3 percent ANNUAL GROWTH.
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"establishmentarianism" means aAdhering to, advocating, or relating to the principle of an ESTABLISHED CHURCH.

As I said, "Picky, picky, picky."

20 posted on 01/02/2018 1:43:49 PM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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