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Bitcoin Bites the Dust – Down $7,200 (37%) in Five Days
Townhall.com ^ | December 29, 2017 | Mike Fuljenz

Posted on 12/29/2017 5:28:20 AM PST by Kaslin

While gold is rising, the trendy electronic crypto-currency Bitcoin collapsed from $19,363 on Sunday, December 17 to a low of $12,148 (down 37% in five days) on Friday, December 22, before rallying to close above $13,000 over the weekend (Bitcoin trades 24/7 and also on weekends). Apparently, investors are starting to realize that Bitcoin is only a creative computerized fiction, while gold is the Real Thing.

Although the “blockchain” technology of using Bitcoin for computerized buying and selling is probably an important technological advance for future economic exchanges, the market for cryptocurrencies is in its infancy – like automobiles a century ago, or computers 50 years ago or the Internet 20 years ago. There were hundreds of automakers in the 1920s, but only the Big Three survived.  Same with computers and dot-com companies: Most fell along the wayside. The “hot stocks” of the 1920s were car companies, then computers in the 1970s and then dot-coms in the 1990s. Cars, computers and the Internet are for real, but most of the companies died.  The same is true for Bitcoin. There are currently hundreds of obscure crypto-currencies competing for dominance.  Bitcoin is the biggest, but it may not remain No. 1 for long. The technology is for real, but investing in a hot stock with a parabolic chart is usually not a smart move.

Some of the smartest minds in finance agree with this assessment.  Warren Buffett called Bitcoin a “bubble,” in which “people get excited from the big price movements and Wall Street accommodates” them.  Buffett added that “You can’t value Bitcoin because it’s not a value-producing asset.”

Jamie Dimon, Chairman and CEO of JPMorgan Chase, praised blockchain technology but called Bitcoin a “fraud,” saying that “it won’t end well.”  Later, he added that “the only value of Bitcoin is what the other guy will pay for it.  Honestly, I think there’s a good chance that the buyers out there are jazzing it up every day so that maybe you’ll buy it too, and take them out.”  In addition, Janet Yellen and other central bankers have warned that Bitcoin is a “speculative asset” and not legal tender, as gold is.  This is more or less a veiled threat that the central bankers of the world will not honor the validity of Bitcoin transactions.

It’s a pretty safe bet that gold will continue to hold its value in 2018, but Bitcoin will probably not.

Gold’s Amazing Winter Surges

Gold is having its best year since 2010, up over 11% for the year, with only a few trading days left in 2017. More importantly, gold has strong upward momentum in the last half of December, rising from a low of $1,240 on December 12 – the day before the Federal Reserve’s rate increase – to $1,283 the day after Christmas. Some technical analysts say that if gold closes over $1,280 as a “resistance level,” it could quickly rise to $1,300 per ounce, perhaps within the next few days – in its regular “winter surge.”

Something amazing has been happening under the radar in the last five years.  Normally, September through December has been the “golden season” for gold’s increase, due to seasonal gold fabrication demand for jewelry gifts in preparation for fall and winter holidays in various cultures.  In the last five years, however, mid-December to March has been gold’s annual “hot spot,” perhaps due to the Chinese New Year, but more recently due to three Federal Reserve interest rate increases in mid-December.

The first mid-winter surge took place in early 2014 in conjunction with the Winter Olympics in Sochi, followed by Putin’s audacious takeover of the Crimea and invasion of eastern Ukraine. Then, during the last three years, gold’s low point came in the second half of the year – twice within a day of the Federal Reserve’s announcement of a 0.25% interest rate increase.Oddly, the reigning belief of the anti-gold market pundits is that gold would fall after interest rates rise, since gold “offers no interest income” and is therefore at a disadvantage to higher-interest currencies, but it turns out gold rallies when rates are raised:

We don’t know how far gold will rise this winter, but gold has risen by double-digit percentages in each of the last four winters. So far, gold is up about 3% (in the last two weeks), so it could have a lot of room left to grow before March. Now is the time to get on board before the bulk of gold’s winter gains arrive.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bitcoin; btc
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1 posted on 12/29/2017 5:28:20 AM PST by Kaslin
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2 posted on 12/29/2017 5:34:03 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin

Wow, that’s a shock. /sarcasm


3 posted on 12/29/2017 5:34:17 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Travis McGee

But...Bitcoin IS backed by numbers...it goes to 11!


4 posted on 12/29/2017 5:35:06 AM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: Kaslin

I think bitcoin is a study in how to make star trek credits work.


5 posted on 12/29/2017 5:37:46 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Kaslin

I’ve created a new currency called Bitrock. I have 1,000 of them and broke each into 1,000 pieces. I sold one piece for a dollar. That means I now have $999,999.

Get in before it’s too late! You don’t want to be left behind while all your friends get rich do you? This is the new, new, new economy. Getting rich without creating anything will work this time. I promise.


6 posted on 12/29/2017 5:40:35 AM PST by ArcadeQuarters ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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To: Kaslin

the idea of mining a bitcoin using massive computers to find one? I still do not get it.
from January 2014

https://www.cnbc.com/2014/01/23/cnbc-explains-how-to-mine-bitcoins-on-your-own.html


7 posted on 12/29/2017 5:42:59 AM PST by SMGFan (Sarah Michelle Gellar is on twitter @SarahMGellar)
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To: Kaslin

Here's a nice bouquet of tulips for bitcoin's funeral.

8 posted on 12/29/2017 5:48:36 AM PST by KarlInOhio (The Whig Party died when it fled the great fight of its century. Ditto for the Republicans now.)
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in other news... Bitcoin still 14,000 TIMES more valuable than the dollar


9 posted on 12/29/2017 5:49:17 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Kaslin
Lots of articles written by people who (A) no nothing about bitcoin and (B) failed to buy any and are bitter about it. I spend a fair amount of time correcting the liberals at other forums. The nice thing about bitcoin is that it clearly exposes the people who don't know what they are talking about from the few that do.

A couple things missing from the analysis (as usual). The main one is they don't understand where the demand is coming from. There is a lot of demand for stored value outside of the traditional commodities like gold. The problem with bitcoin is that it has crypto that will be broken or brute forced in some number of years or decades. So it can't be a long term store of value. But the neat thing with tech is that people come up with new ideas that *might* stand the test of time. Along with every good idea (new cryptocurrency) comes 1000 bad ones. There are many bubble currencies now, bitcoin is only one of them.

The alt-coin bubble is far bigger than the bitcoin bubble. The fact that the writer doesn't even mention it shows just how clueless he is, but I knew that before reading the article. 99% of financial writers are clueless about how it works or how it can be a store of value.

10 posted on 12/29/2017 5:50:27 AM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: KarlInOhio

It beats roses on a piano...


11 posted on 12/29/2017 5:50:48 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth, it gave no one a brain)
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To: Kaslin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcSlcNfThUA
12 posted on 12/29/2017 5:52:42 AM PST by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We MAGA)
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To: ASA Vet

FYI


13 posted on 12/29/2017 5:53:31 AM PST by Grampa Dave (America had regime change January 2017! ISIS collapsed! Are the FBI/DOJ/CIA next?)
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To: Kaslin; Lazamataz
Laz - remember our conversation on this topic? What did I say was going to happen to Bitcoin?

Here ya go.

14 posted on 12/29/2017 5:53:35 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: sten
in other news... Bitcoin still 14,000 TIMES more valuable than the dollar

Mark this post, let's see where Bitcoin is this time next year.

15 posted on 12/29/2017 5:54:36 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Kaslin

Very simple... When your stock holding makes the news, wait two days, then SELL SELL SELL.


16 posted on 12/29/2017 5:55:04 AM PST by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: sten

Tell that to the guy that bought at 19,000 ...


17 posted on 12/29/2017 5:59:20 AM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: LittleBillyInfidel

“Very simple... When your stock holding makes the news, wait two days, then SELL SELL SELL.c

And you miss a good run ... as in Apple.


18 posted on 12/29/2017 6:00:39 AM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: SMGFan
Mining is really simple. Just run SHA256 hashes until you get the right number of leading zeros. Since hash results are essentially random numbers it takes a lot of hashing to guess such a non-random number. Here's how much hashing it takes: https://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate which is 14,000,000 times a trillion times 60 seconds times 10 minutes or 8,400,000,000,000,000,000,000 hashes to get the right answer. Obviously to do that you need fast hashing hardware and a lot of parallelism. The miners have both. An ordinary computer has neither.
19 posted on 12/29/2017 6:01:53 AM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: KarlInOhio

At least the tulip mania was backed by something tangible. Bitcon doesn’t even have that going for it.


20 posted on 12/29/2017 6:03:41 AM PST by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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