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Gov. Jerry Brown PARDONS IMMIGRANT FELONS FACING DEPORTATION
The Gateway Pundit ^ | December 23, 2017 | Brock Simmons

Posted on 12/24/2017 8:49:11 AM PST by Texas Fossil

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To: henbane

It is very sad. But it is not by ignorance, it is because of ComDem Insanity.


61 posted on 12/24/2017 2:13:37 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: DoughtyOne

“This governor is a criminal himself”

You are absolutely correct.


62 posted on 12/24/2017 2:15:04 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

During Brown’s first tenure as the Governor, he was of course a Liberal lunatic, but when it came to fiscal matters, he wasn’t your typical Leftist. He was bad, but it was nothing like today.

Today he’s just unhinged. When evaluating this guy across the board, you find yourself checking every box for troublesome.


63 posted on 12/24/2017 2:18:58 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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To: DoughtyOne

Wisconsin is the pattern.

Governor Walker is a model for the solution.

We saw the extreme that the left went to in Wisconsin to prevent him being effective in reversing the direction of the State Government.

It only came with a serious threat of state bankruptcy.

Socialism always fails when you run out of “other people’s” money.


64 posted on 12/24/2017 2:23:12 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Logical me

Allways? What if we totally eliminate the 9th Circus and take a shot at the insanity from that point?


65 posted on 12/24/2017 2:24:34 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: DoughtyOne

I cannot imagine the frustration that the conservatives in CA have endured.


66 posted on 12/24/2017 2:26:09 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

In a way you can. Obama was what we have to deal with every day out here, but you had to deal with him, and a Congress he held the majority of for a period of time.

It feels like that.

One thing that really gripes me, is conceding 55 electoral votes up front each presidential election.

Then you get showered with bill after bill that is a Leftist’s wet dream.

It is bad.


67 posted on 12/24/2017 2:34:33 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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To: Texas Fossil

Yes it does, and I support what Walker did up there.

I don’t think he’s presidential, but I do like him as a governor up there.


68 posted on 12/24/2017 2:35:14 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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To: jcon40

Then you should SUPPORT THE STATE OF JEFFERSON!


69 posted on 12/24/2017 3:09:23 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Feckless

A criminal conviction is not required to deport an illegal alien.


70 posted on 12/24/2017 3:28:00 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Texas Fossil
What a dip spit gov moonbeam. Just suppose one of these pardoned illegal felons rapes, murders, robs, etc. Will moonbeam have egg on his face or will cali libs just change his diaper and pretend he never pooped his pants. (I know, egg, face pooped, its a mixed smoothing)
71 posted on 12/24/2017 4:37:44 PM PST by Awgie (Truth is always stranger than fiction.)
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To: Texas Fossil

They truly are. And they keep electing the looniest of them all with Moonbeam Brown.

An example is when Joseph Vranich, president of site selection consultants Spectrum Location Solutions (VLS) in Irvine, found that roughly 9,000 California companies moved their headquarters or diverted projects to out-of-state locations in the seven years since 2008 due to the Golden State’s “hostile” business environment.

Vranich reports that the bitter negative perceptions of California for business began during Jerry Brown’s first chaotic two terms as California Governor from 1975 to 1983. Things got so bad that the Governor instructed his aides in 1977 to begin wearing “California Means Business” buttons.

California had almost the lowest poverty rate in the nation in 1977 at about 11.8 percent due largely to the welfare and support programs that kept the poor above their heads. But after the mass migration of 9,000 businesses, California’s 16.4 percent poverty rate is substantially higher than the 14.5 percent national average and near the top overall. You can’t bleed a turnip.

rwood


72 posted on 12/24/2017 4:46:47 PM PST by Redwood71
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To: Redwood71

Yes. And his policies have extended the anti business mindset disaster.

I worked for more than 17 years for a company (in 2 stints) in Texas who bought a similar company in CA. They survived that purchase over 20 years. They are both gone. The Texas company was 105 years old when it closed. The CA company consistently lost more money than the TX company made and bankrupted both of them. The year before the bankruptcy, the TX company made $1,000,000.

CA will be the same way with the Fed Gov. Transfer payments to CA for their loonie Leftist perspective will eventually force the issue.

There are some very good companies still in CA, but the number is dwindling. There are some fine conservatives in CA, but they must be a tough breed to survive.


73 posted on 12/25/2017 6:59:23 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: DoughtyOne

“It is bad.”

Bad Indeed.


74 posted on 12/25/2017 7:01:50 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: 5th MEB

Yep. But a tough win to get


75 posted on 12/25/2017 7:39:31 AM PST by jcon40 (The other post before yours really nails it for me. I have been a DOithS / PC guy forever and alway)
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To: Texas Fossil

Thanks Texas Fossil. Merry Christmas...


76 posted on 12/25/2017 8:38:50 AM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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To: Texas Fossil

“There are some fine conservatives in CA, but they must be a tough breed to survive.”

Survival is based upon numbers with them. And the libs stack the deck.

A couple of years ago California starting doing all party primaries. And when it came time for the general vote to take place, it was possible for two of a party to be the run offs. This meant the they could guarantee to be represented by nothing but liberal voting in both houses of congress.

And it has happened as last year they had two candidates run for the senator seat and both were liberal and were not opposed by a conservative. By doing this they don’t allow a conservative on the ballot. It will double their vote in the senate and a lot more in the house as soon as they take care of that house. I also understand the same thing is going to happen for governor this next election.

If the other states like Colorado, Oregon, New York, Washington get this done also, they will be in a position to control congress until they screw up and there will not be a conservative bill get to the president for as long as they wish or until someone in their state figures out a way to gain a foothold.

But thanks to the press, and the complacency of people being controlled and expecting nothing, I don’t see it being overturned very soon if it happens. And it is a real possibility. Many people do not see a danger in this but I do. And if the conservatives that are “surviving” don’t act in an ultra-strong way, they will be ignored or forgotten as they are not supporting their people with the strong conservative views they need to exhibit to impress their constituents.

rwood


77 posted on 12/25/2017 9:27:58 AM PST by Redwood71
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To: vette6387

I think it may matter in this case, though I don’t know all the facts. Yes, being in the country illegally should in and of itself lead to deportation. The two in question are very likely lawful permanent residents, probably based on asylum granted them or their parents as refugees from Cambodia or Laos after the fall of Vietnam. Being convicted of their crimes effectively negated their legal status, rendered them illegal, and made them amenable to removal; being pardoned more or less returned them to their former legal status. It sucks, but part of the problem is that their country has the right to refuse to accept them; we need to eliminate that right, and adjust the law with regard to pardons. Your instincts are right on; it’s just that we have too many lawyers.


78 posted on 12/26/2017 9:36:21 AM PST by DPMD
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To: DPMD

“Your instincts are right on; it’s just that we have too many lawyers.”

I had not considered the refusal for repatriation issue. I do know that that is a problem. Again, we need to defund any foreign aid as a first step to curing that matter. The other thing would be to pass a Federal Law (if one isn’t already on the books) that says that State-issued pardons do not remove non-citizen individuals from being candidates for deportation. I have always thought that a pardon didn’t eliminate the conviction, but rather only that it terminated the punishment. I mean if you pardon a rapist, you can’t remove the actual commission of the crime. It did happen.
As for lawyers, there are too many of them and nearly all of them are from the Liberal law schools around the country. We also ought to change the law so that first-generation “immigrants” can’t become Federal Judges. It’s bad enough that they can run for Congress.


79 posted on 12/26/2017 9:59:02 AM PST by vette6387
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