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Crime Blogger Arrested Over Her Scoops
Newser ^ | 12/17/17 | Michael Harthorne

Posted on 12/23/2017 1:07:44 PM PST by iowamark

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To: E. Pluribus Unum
This is exactly the kind of speech, the kind the government thinks it has a monopoly on, that the First Amendment is intended to protect.

Then you would be OK with her releasing the names of soldiers killed in Afghanistan before the military had a chance to contact their family members?

While Freedom of Speech is free, it comes with responsibilities...........

41 posted on 12/23/2017 2:28:54 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (My cat is not fat, she is just big boned........)
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To: EEGator

In = Even


42 posted on 12/23/2017 2:30:02 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Bodleian_Girl; SaveFerris

*Extracted=exacted.

Thanks SaveFerris!


43 posted on 12/23/2017 2:39:40 PM PST by Bodleian_Girl (Virgil Caine is the name, and I served on the Danville train)
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To: iowamark

> who accuse her of publishing information before it’s publicly available

A bit of a contradiction.


44 posted on 12/23/2017 2:46:11 PM PST by ArcadeQuarters ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

;)

I’m the king of typos - especially with my $3.99 keyboard - it’s got a lot of problems but I can’t bring myself to get the new one out of the box. I have to use things until they completely wear out. It’s what men do - lol.


45 posted on 12/23/2017 3:18:13 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Robert DeLong

“””So if your loved one were killed, you are saying you have no problem learning about it on the news? Since death notifications by police are probably the most dreaded task they claim to have to do, I’m sure they will be glad to no longer care about having to do that task.”””

in a very real sense what difference does it make? Is the news of your loved on death easier to take just because it comes from a cop?

How about the opposite? Do cops have the right to NOT tell you about a loved one’s death?


46 posted on 12/23/2017 3:21:52 PM PST by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Edward.Fish

As with everything else in the Federal or a State Constitution, it only applies if I agree with it.


47 posted on 12/23/2017 3:44:05 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: Edward.Fish

14th amendment changed that. The first amendment does apply.


48 posted on 12/23/2017 4:26:34 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ... we.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

In no way should she be arrested.


49 posted on 12/23/2017 4:36:42 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: iowamark

Little bit of Texas fascism. Texans need to elect pro-2nd amendment, Constitutional sheriffs in their counties who can swing the hammer down hard on fascist city cops and police chiefs. Sheriffs have the legal and armed muscle to protect citizens.

I have a constitutional sheriff in my county. He’s run two police chiefs out the county who were abusing citizen’s constitutional rights.


50 posted on 12/23/2017 4:59:00 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: raybbr
The pain is probably the same, but the method is as different as night & day. Suppose you are in your car driving down the road when you hear about it broadcast over the radio. Do you think you might not cause an accident as your mind becomes distracted by news that you are trying desperately to wrap your head around? That is just one example of why the press does not release names before notification has been given to next of kin.

Do cops have the right to NOT tell you about a loved one’s death?

What does that even mean? Why is it the cops responsibility if the announcement is going to be made in the news?

51 posted on 12/23/2017 5:06:39 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: iowamark
...the fat crazy lady...

Throw in a few cats and we may have something here...

52 posted on 12/23/2017 6:31:45 PM PST by Libloather (Trivial Pursuit question - name the first female to lose TWO presidential elections!)
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To: iowamark

Meat hooks for Tyrants.


53 posted on 12/23/2017 6:34:19 PM PST by Kalamata (Meat hooks for Tyrants)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“Telling the world that someone has died tragically before being sure that the family has been informed is one of those things.”

Agreed that I wish more compassion had been considered. This situation is something that also happens quite frequently with celebrity deaths. It’s often a race to be the first to publish or even sell the first death scene photos. Or imagine an instance where its a live event covered by news, one may even witness a relative/friend killed or even worse, be left not knowing, as in the case of 9/11.

It is compassionate when we can be notified and prepared for bad news in a calm environment, however, the reality is there are never any guarantees as to how we learn of the death or injury of a loved one.


54 posted on 12/23/2017 6:58:27 PM PST by LeoTDB69
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To: DesertRhino
14th amendment changed that. The first amendment does apply.

Even so if it did it would apply to any Congresses of the States, of which there are none — to assert that the First Amendment's incorporation against the States via the Fourteenth Amendment has any operable effect [against State legislatures] is to assert that the judiciary can alter at-will the Constitution completely apart from Constitutional Amendment.

You cannot be a Constitutionalist and espouse the doctrine of incorporation as practiced by our Judiciary. Period.


(Or would you assert that the servant is greater than the master, that the commissioned is greater than the commissioner? For that is what you are endorsing when you allow the Judiciary to set itself up as superior even to the very authority which establishes it.)

55 posted on 12/23/2017 7:40:39 PM PST by Edward.Fish
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To: Vaquero; Hugh the Scot
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

This applies to Congress, as is evident from the very beginning.

And the congress can’t abridge those freedoms. As the states have purview over anything not spelled out in the constitution, they can’t take away those freedoms spelled out in the constitution.... as in the amendments.

The freedoms of the First Amendment are from Federal Government doing certain things (remember All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives. [Art 1, Sec 1]) so by prohibiting enacting various laws to Congress the First Amendment prohibits them from the entirity of the federal government — this comports with the preamble to the Bill of Rights which reads, in part: The Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added.

Now, the Tenth Amendment clearly states that what is not delegated by the Constitution to the federal government is within the purview of the States or their people: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. And so something like State laws against [e.g.] certain publications and press access may indeed be valid. However, in the case of Texas this is clearly not so, by their own Conctitution:

ARTICLE 1. BILL OF RIGHTS
Sec. 8.   FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND PRESS; LIBEL.

Every person shall be at liberty to speak, write or publish his opinions on any subject, being responsible for the abuse of that privilege; and no law shall ever be passed curtailing the liberty of speech or of the press. In prosecutions for the publication of papers, investigating the conduct of officers, or men in public capacity, or when the matter published is proper for public information, the truth thereof may be given in evidence. And in all indictments for libels, the jury shall have the right to determine the law and the facts, under the direction of the court, as in other cases.


56 posted on 12/23/2017 7:46:43 PM PST by Edward.Fish
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To: Wolfie
As with everything else in the Federal or a State Constitution, it only applies if I agree with it.

That is, apparently, exactly how our Judiciary works. :(

57 posted on 12/23/2017 7:47:46 PM PST by Edward.Fish
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To: Jane Long; El Gato; hocndoc; Squantos; SwinneySwitch; MeekOneGOP; weegee; EQAndyBuzz; ...
Texas Ping!
58 posted on 12/23/2017 8:21:02 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: iowamark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZl0i4HuRYc


59 posted on 12/23/2017 8:47:43 PM PST by mylife ( The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Edward.Fish

I know that you believe you’re on solid 10th amendment ground here.

Try this with the 15th and see how it works. (Hint: it doesn’t)


60 posted on 12/24/2017 4:46:33 AM PST by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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