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“And you really need to get over your mistaken mindset here.”

When you deal with people that have no principle and have been systematically trying to destroy this country over the past 70 to 80 years, and you want to let them know you have no idea just how effective they can be at the drop of a hat, then you’re the one with the misconceptions.

You have a majority in the house and 12 of your majority changed their votes to pander the minority. And by doing so do you really think they didn’t see it for what it was? You said yourself that they used loopholes to chase conservatives out of the major races in California for one of the houses last year, and this coming year, they are going to get a liberal governor as they are doing the same to that post. And conservatives have been systematically erased to the point that they think they are fooling the libs. By the action of erasing them with the libs threat and the misconception they can get something done in an ultra-liberal state like this, those 12 are rendered absolutely useless by throwing away a vote. And when the libs get enough of their “uselessness” along with showing just how weak the GOP is, they will see to it there will be no vote capacity for their slots too. And their only use at that point is packing their desk up. And, again, if the liberal states take all the conservatives out of the house and senate, where’s your majority then. And I don’t care what party the president is, he will have two choices, 1., sign the liberal bills coming at him or her, or 2., be forced to use executive orders that will change the next liberal president gets in office. The orders can’t stop legislation. But the GOP won’t get any.

You think I have no idea about my ass? You wait, yours is in the same war mine is and whether you know it or not, it’s in peril. And the enemy is going to see to it you won’t have one at all. And they are smiling all the way right now because they are getting away with it. And you can’t see it.

Your words, “You’re wasting both of our time trying to push the idea we should get our guys tossed out on principle.”

I’m not pushing it for principle. I’m not pushing it at all. I believe my words were the GOP is screwing the pooch. I’m using reality and what is already happening in California. And it can spread like the plague to every lib state. I won’t have to say they should get themselves pushed out on principle. The libs will get rid of them when they are ready. And neither of us will have a say in it. And neither will any other GOP party member. They will become valueless and non-existent. Remember them well.

I won’t be bothering you again. Thank you for the time. Sorry it was a waste from both directions.

rwood

We have twelve people from blue states.

Their fellow state citizens will not be able to deduct their state taxes starting next year.

This could be a hardship on them. Our leaders gave these 12 people the option to vote against the bill in the interest of saving their seats for harder battles ahead, because they knew this bill was going to pass.

Here you are still harping on the idea that these folks sold out. You are a mindless fool.

Constituents of these people could turn on them and blame them for their vote that cost them money.

You seriously think jeopardizing 12 seats in the House when they didn’t need to was the right thing to do.

I don’t doubt you are a Conservative and think you’re advocating for the right thing, but if we were to wind up the minority by six votes in 2019, would you still think putting those 12 seats in jeopardy and losing eight of them was a great idea?

Those twelve no votes were a strategic move. I fully support it.

Again, if McCain, Snow, or some other Republican votes against legislation and it fails, it’s a totally different matter. That would be a substantive betrayal.

I do fight for the side you do. I just try to do it intellectually as well as enthusiastically.

I know what the stakes are. I know that keeping those 12 seats is very important.