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To: GoldenState_Rose
Sudan, Iran, Cuba, Venezuala, and North Korea are all in Putin's corner

Do you blame them? How many countries leaders has the US overthrown in regime change initiatives? Why are we still in Syria now that ISIS has been defeated? We had no business being there, except for helping to defeat ISIS, created by bad Obama/hillary foreign policy.

4 posted on 12/18/2017 11:02:38 AM PST by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: grania

> How many countries leaders has the US overthrown in regime change initiatives? <

That’s a really good point. And it all was made worse by George W. Bush’s stupid “Axis of Evil” speech. In that speech Bush essentially said: If we don’t like you, we are going to get rid of you. The next thing you know, Saddam is dangling at the end of a rope.

So yeah, if I were a third-world leader, I’d be a bit leery of US “friendship”.


6 posted on 12/18/2017 11:07:01 AM PST by Leaning Right
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To: grania

Zbigniew Brzezinski was the monster in the Carter administration who armed and financed the Mujahedeen in Afghanistan to fight against the Soviets. When the Soviets were in Afghanistan, women were educated, teachers, lawyers, doctors, etc. Well, after the Mujahedeen were armed with sophisticated weapons, the Soviets left... The result - the USA got 911, and women now can walk 3 paces behind the donkey, the Mujahedeen evolved into the Taliban, who evolved into Al-Qaeda, who evolved into ISIS/ISIL/Daesh.


7 posted on 12/18/2017 11:09:34 AM PST by Oak Leafer
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To: grania

Yes. This is how Ron Paul (who I admire dearly) and Putin (who I do not admire dearly) would say.

We have the moral high ground geopolitically now. Trump is doing a good job.

Putin has been driven by his desire to avenge the fall of the Soviet Union (and the Russian Empire.)

He wants to diminish even the power of values that make America great and enjoys capitalizing on the weaknesses Western civilization. He has no concern for some higher justice or rule of law.


9 posted on 12/18/2017 11:11:56 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: grania

Seems we weren’t in Syria to defeat isis at all but rather per the genius mc cain, we were there to prop them up.

All of it’s a cluster**** and someday, if we are still a decent and moral nation (which I see we are not currently) the whole truth will come out about that disaster.


14 posted on 12/18/2017 11:19:27 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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