[Cowboy Bob]

Vox used numbers to back up Clymer’s position, pointing to a 2012 study that basically says more guns equals more gun deaths. In 2012, the study showed that about 30 people per million died of homicide by firearm in the U.S., while that number was far smaller in places with stricter gun laws like Australia, New Zealand, Germany and Austria.

I don't think those countries have the same problem with ferals/illegals, so it's like comparing apples with oranges.

If they were honest, they could compare crime by ethnicity.

[antidemoncrat]

The countries that have gun control and have let thousands of so called Muslim “refugees” waltz in have experienced a rapid increase of crimes. Of course, those same governments are now powerless to stop it.

[Crucial]

Some gun death stats are positive as those deaths save the lives of others. Of course, those are usually in the minority.

[Lurkina.n.Learnin]

What is the homicide rate in those countries compared to ours? Gun deaths in a country with a gun ban is not a fair comparison.

[Navy Patriot]

... Germany and Austria ...

I suppose murder of captive disarmed innocents by Socialist Leftists using gas and ovens doesn't count as deaths to Vox, ain't Prog stats grand?

[FreedomNotSafety]

The only important stat is the unjustified murder rate. Deaths and homicides are not the same. Guns may indeed increase the number of deaths and much of that is from the increase in suicides and justified homicides. But the unjustified murder rate drops dramatically.