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William Bligh: Top 10 Ten facts about the HMS Bounty lieutenant
Express ^ | 12/7/2017 | WILLIAM HARTSTON

Posted on 12/07/2017 8:29:38 AM PST by Borges

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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

“How come for every historical person of even minor note, there’s someone making the case that they were gay?”

I can’t help you on that one. History is rife with such practices.

[Quote] Many books of quotations include a caustic quote attributed to Winston Churchill (1874-1965) in which he supposedly called British naval tradition nothing but “rum, sodomy, and the lash.” (Sometimes given as “rum, buggery and the lash,” using the old British slang term “buggery” to refer to homosexual sex.)
The earliest source commonly cited for this quip is the diary of former British diplomat, politician and author Harold Nicolson (1886-1968).

In a diary entry dated August 17, 1950, Nicolson recorded some anecdotes about Churchill.

One involves a version of the “rum, sodomy, and the lash” quote.

But the version Nicolson wrote about that day included “prayers” in the litany. His diary entry says:

…when Winston was at the Admiralty, the Board objected to some suggestion of his on the grounds that it would not be in accord with naval tradition. ‘Naval tradition? Naval tradition?’ said Winston. ‘Monstrous. Nothing but rum, sodomy, prayers and the lash.’ [Unquote]


41 posted on 12/07/2017 12:13:59 PM PST by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancakes, just as every culture has its noodle.)
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To: notdownwidems
He lost one, Norton I believe his name was, killed by natives on Tafoa...read Men Against the Sea, the second book of the Bounty Trilogy...for sheer excitement and adventure, it is the best of the three!

Yes, you're right, I forgot about that. It's amazing that any (actually most) of them made it off that island alive.

As I recall, another member of Bligh's lifeboat died very shortly after arriving in Australia. Dehydration destroyed his kidneys.

42 posted on 12/08/2017 7:47:52 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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