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New York art museum refuses to remove painting of girl after 'voyeurism' complaint
The Guardian - AP ^ | 12/5/2017

Posted on 12/06/2017 1:26:55 PM PST by Borges

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To: miss marmelstein
These people would burn Donatello’s David because it, in fact, has a pre-teen boy nude as can be. Possibly my favorite sculpture.

Maybe they'd just glue a codpiece on him, LOL.

61 posted on 12/07/2017 4:30:05 AM PST by COBOL2Java (John McCain treats GOP voters like he treated his first wife)
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To: miss marmelstein

Not what I said, I said she would find it not be a well structured piece with little flow. The piece consists of a line on top which takes you straight across, a non action set of darker colors on the mid left, a larger brighter set of colors on the mid right, and another set of darker colors on the bottom right. None of them are well connected and there is no lead that draws one into or across the painting. There is little motion at all.

I never said she was better than him.

But as a proud papa I’d put her’s up - you can find some here:

http://www.artandwriting.org/explore/online-galleries/#art=All&future_new=All&art_portfolio=false&writing_portfolio=false&year=2017&state=OH&awards=D&grade=0

The Portfolio with the last name Reed is her’s.

I think it is brighter, contemporaneous, and better structured.


62 posted on 12/07/2017 8:55:45 AM PST by reed13k
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To: miss marmelstein
Yes, it most assuredly is....;^)

I've never seen this particular painting, up close, in person, at the Met ( since where it hangs isn't one of my favorite galleries ), and don't remember ever seeing it. Though I did used to enjoy going through the "modern" section, to see the Edward Hooper stuff.

63 posted on 12/07/2017 10:27:50 AM PST by nopardons
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To: miss marmelstein

We spent a week in Friendship, ME and toured around from there. Beautiful in the summertime.


64 posted on 12/07/2017 10:28:59 AM PST by GCFADG (Set a watch, O LORD, before my mouth; keep the door of my lips.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Can you imagine just what their reaction would be, re all of the Italian and French PUTTI paintings, or some by Degas ?


65 posted on 12/07/2017 10:32:06 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Don W
If you’re focussing on the child’s underpants, it’s YOU that has the problem

Honi soit qui mal y pense

66 posted on 12/07/2017 10:35:12 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: nopardons

Oh, yeah, the little ballet dancers by Degas. So much art involves beautiful young people. Why not?


67 posted on 12/07/2017 11:24:55 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: GCFADG

Yes, it is. Did you visit the guy in Friendship who has the bottle museum?!


68 posted on 12/07/2017 11:26:13 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

We did not. Hadn’t heard of it.


69 posted on 12/07/2017 1:42:23 PM PST by GCFADG (Set a watch, O LORD, before my mouth; keep the door of my lips.)
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To: GCFADG

Oh, it’s crazy. It’s right in Friendship and it’s just a guy in a garage who has arranged colorful bottles in a beautiful and unique way. He calls bottles his “passion.” A true American eccentric.


70 posted on 12/07/2017 2:39:53 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein
Yes...VERY young girls, in the Paris Opera Corps de Ballet, many of whom were also part of the demimonde! ;^)

And he captured them in some rather strange positions, to boot!

But Degas was a true "MASTER" and an expert of not just one area but several!

Yes, artists have painted/sculpted/drawn beautiful young boys and girls, because of their beauty...which actually IS the whole point; unless the artist is known for grotesqueries. Hieronymous Bocsh and Henri de Toulouse-Latrec,to name but two artists who did paint grotesqueries, also painted beautiful young things as well, though.

71 posted on 12/07/2017 3:08:42 PM PST by nopardons
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Leonardo painted really horrific grotesques - from life. Medieval people looked a lot worse than we do!


72 posted on 12/07/2017 3:11:26 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Liz

Apparently this guy did a ton of similar stuff, I think he had issues.


73 posted on 12/07/2017 3:13:26 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: dfwgator

"Mr. Melon, your wife was just showing us her Klimt."

"You too, huh? She's shown it to everybody."

74 posted on 12/07/2017 3:15:29 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

If it wasn’t for that scene, I’d never know who Klimt was.


75 posted on 12/07/2017 3:49:19 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: miss marmelstein
Yes he did, as did many other painters before and after him did.

Yes, people have somewhat changed in the way they look; which is a very recent development in the history of mankind. A lot of it can be attributed to dietary and work changes, but the big things are mostly because we've conquered a lot of diseases, dentistry, surgery methods, and a larger pool of people with whom we can choose to marry and have children with.

76 posted on 12/07/2017 5:03:07 PM PST by nopardons
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He drew mountain people who obviously suffered from goiter. That’s certainly now a rare problem in the west. People don’t know that in England, men were much taller in medieval times than they were during the Industrial Revolution. Bad food, bad work conditions destroyed their health.


77 posted on 12/08/2017 3:38:18 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein
It wasn't until some time in the 1920s, that the companies in the USA started selling iodized salt, because getting goiters was something that people in various different regions, here, was a pretty big problem.

Yes, some people were quite tall, in past eras; it usually depended quite a lot on where one was born, diet, and social strata.

And re grotesqueries...people used to be born with hair lips ( which couldn't be fixed ), other kinds of physical deformities, were deformed by different kinds of illnesses, and developed hunchbacks. And there were also accidents and war injuries that just couldn't be fixed/compensated for, as they can be today.

78 posted on 12/08/2017 12:08:05 PM PST by nopardons
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