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To: bobsunshine

We need a map showing number of recreational users per day per square mile of these “parks”. Anywhere with a value vanishingly close to zero isn’t a “park”, it’s “get off the king’s land”.

I appreciate keeping interesting land for low-impact recreational use.
I’ve also seen plenty of land* which is virtually inaccessible and staggeringly unsuited for recreational use (save for the most adventurous & masochistic).
(* - recall flying cross-country, seeing a desert area of impassable undulating waves of rock. Desperately want to find where that was, if only for the abject remoteness & isolation.)


3 posted on 12/04/2017 2:04:17 PM PST by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: ctdonath2

Utah, Arizona, Nevada, etc, have areas just like that.

Utah is spectacular, so is Arizona, Colorado - there is enough land for everybody. Hikers, horses, jeep trails, bicyclists, and loggers and natural gas drilling, mining, military bases, private development. I’ve hiked thousands of miles in backcountry, national parks and bureau of land management, national forests etc. It’s absolutely amazing the different landscapes. But leftists are way too extreme, and very hypocritical. I know this because I used to think that way too. Or thought I did.

They may couch it in glowing terms, and “the environment” and saving the planet, but it’s mostly BS, whether they even realize it. The issue isn’t the issue, the real radicals don’t want ANY resource extraction of ANY kind. They use the federal government to effect that. My view is that Utah isn’t a museum. They have huge areas set aside in federal parks. It should largely be up to Utahns as far as I’m concerned. Maybe they’ll decide to lock it all up, I don’t know. “These are public lands!” some people say, well OK.

What if the public happens wants to log, mine, and drill the shit out of it? Is that OK? Well.. no. Everything is situational with leftists. So long as they got theirs, $&uck everybody else. Most selfish, uncaring, hypocritical and disturbing individuals I’ve ever met.


4 posted on 12/04/2017 3:27:19 PM PST by Freedom4US
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