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1 posted on 12/01/2017 10:22:39 PM PST by Simon Green
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Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms…well…you probably know all about that.

No, I guess I don't.

2 posted on 12/01/2017 10:28:14 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Simon Green
We got your accuracy-----🖕🏻. Find some sand and pound away.
3 posted on 12/01/2017 10:28:25 PM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Simon Green
Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms…well…you probably know all about that.

Uhh, no. What might this be?

4 posted on 12/01/2017 10:46:35 PM PST by Sam_Damon
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Is this make of rifle sold to civilians in the US? I think it’s legal in most states.


5 posted on 12/01/2017 11:07:53 PM PST by GunsareOK
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So a guy who sells guns to taxpayer-funded government entities at inflated prices wants to ban those same taxpayers from owning guns which they pay for themselves...

"That's... umm... rain. No, really... it's just rain. It isn't me pissing on your back, or anything like that. Trust me."

7 posted on 12/02/2017 4:09:28 AM PST by niteowl77
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Apparently, this is #fakenews. From the comments on the article...
==== begin remarks
USMC says:
December 2, 2017 at 01:50
TTAG, this is fake news and you need to update this story to reflect the situation!!!

Frank Galli (the owner of SnipersHide), posted this on his site today:

“I am on the phone with Tom Irwin RIght now,

This is completely false … standby

Sniper’s Hide took the time on Friday to reach out to Tom Irwin of Accuracy International Regarding the Article in “The Evening Standard”. Tom called me that evening from a Hockey Game to set the record straight for everyone.

Within the Accuracy International Financial Disclosure were comments regarding the US election. How the election of Trump was seen as a positive for Accuracy International and the fact there was always a risk, had she been elected Hillary could have harmed the business. The quote from Tom was included

“There was always a risk that she would… ban gun imports”

The document is public and a reporter on seeing the comments regarding the US election contacted AI to say he was writing an article about it. Everything Trump is news and the fact AI mentioned support for his election makes it news.

Prior to publication, Tom spoke to the reporter and the question of Bump stocks came up. This is the majority of the article, and delivered two quotes from Tom.

“Ridiculous”
“Personally, I don’t think so. I can’t see the benefit.”

Clearly these were taken out of context and help create the headline that the “US needs greater gun controls, says rifle boss”.

Meanwhile gun control was never mentioned, nor was the topic. These two comments were about bump stocks. Not semi auto rifles, or anything else, bump stocks.

Clearly out of context, clearly meant to incite a reaction among their US market. Remember, the reporter had access to their financial documents, hurting their US sales could hurt a company that showed growth. Because they supported the outcome of the election you get a political hit job.

Tom explained, Accuracy International and Tom Irwin are not calling for more gun control in the US. And does agree with the way the article frames any of Tom’s statements. The conversation was reduced to three quotes:

“Ridiculous”
“Personally, I don’t think so. I can’t see the benefit.”
“There was always a risk that she would… ban gun imports”

With the last one about Hillary. So really you have one word and a sentence , out of a much longer discussion.

Take it from the source, Tom has spoken to me directly and can tell you this is the true definition of fake news dressed in click bait.”

https://forum.snipershide.com/forum/sniper%C2%92s-hide%C2%AE-armory-supply/sniper-s-hide-bolt-action-rifles/6771600-ai-does-not-want-more-us-gun-control#post6772356

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USMC says:
December 2, 2017 at 01:52
And more posted by Frank:

“I spoke to Tom tonight who called me from a Hockey Game, in order to set the record straight,

AI is required to submit a financial document as most companies of this type do. The reporter had access to this document, and in it, Tom stated that the election was good for business as part of projections for the future. So the reporter, being that everything Trump is news, contacted them saying they are printing a story about what was in the document.

Tom, prior to the article reached out to reporter to make sure it was put in context, cause clearly this is the issue.

The actual conversation that is quoted, out of context and severely edited, was regarding bump stocks.

Again, this was in regards to bump stocks.

Being asked about them directly, he said, that bump stocks, were the issue, nothing to do with semi auto fire, or semi auto rifles in the US. What he did say was, it’s bad business to have a product that can cross in to “gray area” being that full auto fire is illegal in the US, and “He” did not find them useful products, in the context of what they do. The conversation was not about semi autos, it was about one thing, bump stocks.

The fact one word, “ridiculous” was quoted tells you how much of the conversation was take out of context, as well that he personally saw no use for the product is not the same as saying semi auto rifles should be controlled or outlawed. In fact there was nothing said about “gun control” especially regarding semi auto fire.

If I was asked about a bump stock would say the same thing, it’s a stupid product used by prepper dweebs more than anyone serious about this sport or industry.

You’re asking a precision rifle guy about a product designed for shooting off the hip. Context !

Accuracy International does not advocate for gun control and categorically denies the way this article represents their position.

I went to the source, I spoke to Tom and he explained this entire thing. It was taken out of context and the fact the words “Bump Stock” are not mentioned should tell you something. They were looking to make a political statement to start keying off the election comment in the disclosure, and then during the course of the interview the question was about the bump stock. All of that context is missing.

Now if you feel he was wrong, I want to hear it, but for the rest of you now crying foul, you owe him an apology.

1, for taking the side of an anti gun reporter first
2. Not asking for clarity

I await your responses”
====== End of remark


9 posted on 12/02/2017 7:29:33 AM PST by moovova
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