Posted on 11/24/2017 6:00:16 AM PST by Chickensoup
Exactly right. Once one accepts that basic fact, life is much easier. And it has nothing to do with gender, race, creed, etc.
Even in the world of white men (of which I am a part), we are divided up into a broad strata of inequalities. You have your true alpha males at the top and the sissiest beta males at the bottom - with the vast majority in between at many different levels.
Even when I was in the Marine Corps, which is reputedly the branch of the military with the highest standards, we had the same pecking order. You had those who were fully "squared away" who attained promotions and commendations with ease and then at the bottom, you had the "shitbirds" who were always screwing up in some way or another.
There is simply no such thing as "equality". It is unobtainable. There is however, equality in opportunity. Some have to work harder at opportunity than others but the opportunity is there.
For example, Donald Trump had to work much harder at becoming president than Barack Obama - who was practically coronated president and then worshipped by most once he got in (no matter how badly he performed). For Trump, every day is a battle for survival but he wins because he is much tougher and determined than Obama will ever be. Trump is a much better president than Obama but will never get the credit he deserves because unlike Obama, many people hate him.
So while both Trump and Obama became president, they are absolutely not equal. But they did have relatively equal opportunity. It's just that one had to work much harder to obtain the presidency.
Let's take a hypothetical example of a professional ballplayer. We'll choose MLB baseball. Now many boys are naturally gifted with athletic skill so the path to a professional MLB career is much easier for them (there can be no equality with athletic ability). Yet any healthy boy can make it to the major leagues if they are willing to put in the time and practice necessary.
Let's take an average 8-year-old boy. Should he have average - or even below average - athletic ability, he can overcome that with practice, practice, practice. I'm talking hours each day in the batting cages, shagging flies, taking grounders, throwing the baseball hard and accurately across the field. Ten years of absolute dedication will almost certainly bring that boy to the major league level of play by the time he reaches 18. His path was harder because he is not equal to the boy blessed with natural athletic ability, but the opportunity was there nonetheless.
EQUAL TREATMENT?
YES.
EQUAL OUTCOME?
NO.
What we are being put through in the “Equal Treatment For Females” issue is following the exact same pattern
as what we are put through in the “Equal Treatment For Blacks” issue.
Equal treatment and equal opportunity for all is fine and as it should be.
The first problem is that liberals and the government set out to create equal outcomes instead of equal treatment and opportunity.
The second problem is that the way they seek to force equal outcome is with policies that dictate unequal treatment.
The third problem is that, as in everything else they do, they overplay their hand
They now actually force unequal outcomes in favor of females in the same ways their policies have forced unequal outcomes in favor of blacks for decades.
And this is achieved by discriminating against others.
“Egalitarian” may be a good label for the social-laws in Scandinavia, as part of the politics and governance of their countries. But culture writ large is more than mere politics or what mere politics demands and can control. In spite of “egalitarian” politics, the broader culture may less “egalitarian” than the politics. That may be the Scandinavian paradox and it may not be a paradox of mere “egalitarian” politics at all.
“Is equality even possible where there are double standards?
Equality, in the sense you are using the word, is like a unicorn - everybody knows what it looks like, but no one has ever seen it....Reality mandates “double standards”. Most “double standards” are not really that, they simply mean that we do not treat unlike things in a similar manner.”
This is one of the best clear concise explanations I have ever read. May I borrow it?
True equality of the sons and daughters of Adam and Eve only exists in the eyes of God.
Very good article. There exists big biological diversity (genetic) in humans. HBD
Applicable to race and ethnicity as well as sex.
That is, which groups have which complaints? If one can sufficiently impose themselves to leverage this dissatisfaction aka 'divide & conquer', then they will have achieved a control position in which to exploit the various conflicts that invariably (purposely) are caused.
Whether it is economic, gender, race, religion, culture, age, etc, there are so many variations spread across humanity that it must become difficult to settle on just one in order to maximize personal power & control. That's why the left is a composition of all these individual player groups that combine to create a coalition to defeat 'normals'.
The "womens' movement" was really a ginned up effort at creating deep satisfaction in order to encourage a self-initiated war against their very natures. It's sort of sad if you step back and reflect on what is actually happening; it's tempting to almost explain it as evil.
I don’t really try to get into “good vs evil” on this topic. I just see it as “smart vs stupid”. I see it like the flat earth argument. Is it “evil” to believe the earth is flat, and live your life accordingly? I think it’s just stupid, when ignorance is not an excuse.
It becomes evil (bad) when you try to convince others, especially when you know better.
Lol. It was these very charlatans that started the damm “men and women are the same” BS in the first place. Psychologists are scam artists. And they know it.
From my quite sporadic and unsystematic forays into the literature, I get the impression that a great many people in fields related to cognitive psychology and psychometrics are just waiting for the moment when it becomes possible to speak and write honestly about gender and racial differences without ending one's career. This is certainly one of the fields in which a dogmatic lie is enforced in the public square -- while virtually everyone with serious chops in the field knows its a lie.
Anyone here seen the doc movie “ The Red Pill?” Very interesting
Be my guest. Spread it as far as possible.
We are dying because no one will say the emperor has no clothes.
Liberal dogma states that if there are any differences at all in social or financial outcomes between groups of people defined by sex, race, or any other identifier, these differences must necessarily be the outcome of “discrimination and bigotry.” The fact that even in the most fanatically egalitarian societies in the world you get differences in outcomes proves that human nature and not institutional discrimination explain social and economic outcomes. Unfortunately, facts are of secondary interest to liberal ideologues.
But it's racist to have an opinion that IQ has any genetic component.
Once you accept the Left's premise that there are no real racial and sexual differences in ability, then it follows that any unequal outcome can only be the result of discrimination, which they are morally required to remedy through draconian enforcement of anti-discrimination rules.
Some Leftists take this absurdity even further and say that not only are there no differences among groups defined by race or sex, there are also no real differences in innate ability among individuals within groups of people. I can't imagine the level of self-deception required to believe in such nonsense, because taken literally you'd have to believe that there is no such thing as talent (or conversely, incompetence), so that with enough practice or study, anyone off the street could become a virtuoso musician or a Nobel Prize-winning theoretical physicist.
Good point.
They have built an entire social and governmental philosophy on a false premise that they know to be false.
In the same way they built an entire narrative about President Trump's Russian connections on a false document they created themselves.
They truly are despicable human beings.
Sam, I was right there with you until your Major League Baseball (MLB) example.
Most people don’f realize the skill levels required and how difficult it is to make it in professional sports.
There are 30 MLB teams and their expanded roster is limited to 40 players. Thus at any one time only 1200 individuals could possibly make an appearance in an MLB game.
There are 161.74 million males in the United Stares today, 38.1 million of them between the ages of 18-34. MLB players represent 0.00074% of the total male population, and 0.003% of the male population ages 18 to 34.
For the male high school seniors who will graduate next spring, 3 out every 100,000 will have a chance to make a 40-man roster.
You can practice and train all you want for the 10 years from 8 to 18, but you can’t coach size, speed, range, or the ability to hit a major league curve ball. This is further compounded by the fact that after 2000 hours, any individual’s learning curve has flattened out.
The jump in the speed, complexity, and discipline required to make the transition from high school to college athletics can cause problems for even very gifted athletes. The gap between professional and college sports is much greater.
The odds are worse for other sports. There are more board certified neurosurgeons in the United States than there are people who can play golf with a legitimate -4 handicap and qualify for the PGA Tour.
Only 12 to 15 of the high school class of 2018 will ever play in the NBA.
Which is why 99.99%+ of al. NCAA athletes will turn pro at something other than their sport, and the vast majority of NCAA Division 1 quarterbacks have excellent pro prospects...as a stockbroker.
I encourage everyone to pursue their passions and dreams, but as the great prophet Harry Callahan said in Chapter 3 (Magnum Force): “A man has got to know his limitations.”
Is it fair to say however, that a healthy boy playing baseball from age 8 to 18 at an intense level of practice (say an average of four hours a day, five days a week) will develop the basic skills of a professional ballplayer? No guarantee that he would make a major league roster but he'd be a darn good ballplayer. I do understand that very few people will ever be able to hit a major league fastball good enough to make a major league team but if one had an opportunity to practice at it for 10 years as a growing boy, he would be able to at least hit maybe around .200 (like a typical major league pitcher). I believe the average pitcher has a batting average around .165 but they do surprise us once in a while with a clutch hit when they get the opportunity.
I read somewhere that 10,000 hours of practice at anything will make you one of the best in the world at that thing (that's 20 hours a week for 10 years). Not saying that 10,000 hours of piano playing would make you Beethoven but you'd definitely be in the top echelon of piano players. That is, if you practiced with your heart in it.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.