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Plato's Cave and Our Current Reality
American Thinker ^ | November 19, 2017 | Earick Ward

Posted on 11/19/2017 6:43:51 AM PST by Popman

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To: Popman

All humans are flawed. It is those breif instances in human history when a human goes against his or her nature and does the right thing that moves us forward. Rare as those insurances may be they do make the difference because along with the flaws humans instinctively know right from wrong and acknowledge it.


21 posted on 11/19/2017 7:45:40 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Popman

From the comments: “Tocqueville, after the debacle of the French Revolution and Reign of Terror, quipped that the French peasants “neither understood freedom nor wanted it.” The release from Serfdom was not to embrace the free markets of the petty bourgeoisie but to demand equality in privilege and to take revenge on those who previously enjoyed privilege.”


22 posted on 11/19/2017 7:52:09 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Popman

Tocqueville put it much more succinctly...

“There is a passion for equality that spurs all men to wish to be strong and esteemed. This passion tends to elevate the lesser to the rank of the greater. But one also finds in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to want to bring the strong down to their level [Class Warfare], and which reduces men to preferring equality in servitude to inequality in freedom.”


23 posted on 11/19/2017 8:00:31 AM PST by aquila48
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To: Jan_Sobieski
I am wondering if conservatives will join with those liberals to march conservatives into camps?

True conservatives, no. Rinos, yes.

24 posted on 11/19/2017 8:00:37 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: kalee

For later


25 posted on 11/19/2017 8:18:27 AM PST by nnn0jeh
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To: HLPhat

Must be why they were awarded the title: “Best Bank.”


26 posted on 11/19/2017 8:22:27 AM PST by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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To: Popman

Delusions will win some battles here and there, but in the end reality will get its revenge.

The unfortunate thing is that new delusionals are constantly being born, ready to sell their delusions to the easily deluded, so the battle between reality and delusions is eternal.

Reality dispatched the Lenins, the Stalins, the Hitlers, but later we got Obama, Merkel, Soros, Bergoglio (the Marxist Pope}. Reality will dispatch them too, but not before they have caused untold misery.

Kipling described the revenge of reality very well in his “The Gods of the copybook headings”...

“And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return! “


27 posted on 11/19/2017 8:26:54 AM PST by aquila48
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To: aquila48

“but in the end reality will get its revenge.”

“You can evade reality. But you can’t evade the consequences of evading reality.” A. Rand.

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28 posted on 11/19/2017 8:35:24 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Popman
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie; and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

It doesn't get more Machiavellian than the above - totalitarian at it's more evil...

29 posted on 11/19/2017 8:46:28 AM PST by GOPJ (https://www.reddit.com/r/StumpSheet/comments/6ec3z1/fake_hate_crimes_official/)
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To: Popman
Ultimately, we are participants in the endgame of Satan’s war with God.

The ever increasing noise of fake news currently plaguing us is both a sign and a milemarker of where we are in our story and in the war swirling around us and for us.

The closer we get to the end of these times, of this epoch, the more God sends us His signs and His prophets to warn us and prepare us for His return.

And on the other side, Satan, as usual, apes God and does similar things to counter God’s efforts, sending us his false prophets to sow his weed seeds of confusion and dissention.

Taking a measure of we, the harvest to be, it’s hard to imagine our becoming much more confused and divided about truth and reality than we are now, but we’re not there, yet.

We have been given over to our grand delusions of how things are and how they ought to be and it’s best to not underestimate to power of motivated mass delusion.

Instead, just keep Him as your focus at all times and the false prophets of these times won’t be able to deceive you with their fake news, nor will they steal your peace.

No worries. He’s got this. Have faith.

30 posted on 11/19/2017 8:55:21 AM PST by GBA (A = 432)
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To: Popman
It is much easier to mount a force of will, when all of your forces pull in the same direction, without question. In this, as a top-down, command and control ideology, the Left have an advantage. Leftist masters determine a path forward, which gets disseminated throughout their institutions of influence. Their foot-soldiers then advance on the path until they’ve secured victory. See any man on the street video, where these clowns are asked to articulate why they’re protesting.

The men who wrote the Constitution were aware of totalitarian tactics... if we can keep the country running under the Constitution and NOT under 'fashion ideas of the moment by twisted power hungry elites' we can win. And yes, liberal elites are using every totalitarian tactic they can get away with... which (thank God) is not that many in a free country running under a Bill of Rights...

31 posted on 11/19/2017 8:57:16 AM PST by GOPJ (https://www.reddit.com/r/StumpSheet/comments/6ec3z1/fake_hate_crimes_official/)
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To: Popman
Another Goebbels quote that is especially relevant today:

"When lying, tell the Big Lie. The Big Lie will always work because people have a limited capacity to comprehend deception on a grand scale."

As we can see, our government -- and large parts of our culture -- are little more than deceptions on a grand scale. We're being ruled by the Big Lie:

Antifa -- We oppose fascism.
BLM -- It's about Black Lives.
LBTQMFEIEIO -- Homosexuality is the same as heterosexuality.
Climate change -- no science but an endless apocalyptic drumbeat
Feminazism -- Men and women are the same
Russia, Russia, Russia ...
Islime is just another religion.
Diversity is strength.
Hollywood is a moral exemplar.
Democrats are the party of the working man.
Communism works.

32 posted on 11/19/2017 9:06:40 AM PST by IronJack
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To: dhs12345
It is those breif instances in human history when a human goes against his or her nature and does the right thing that moves us forward.

The dissenters generally don't fare well when they speak truth. As Mr. Goebbels put it, governments must use all their power to suppress truth, because it is anathema to the Big Lie. Dissent is fraught with danger, and good men have been erased for the hideous crime of telling the emperor he has no clothes.

Some persist in spite of that, and those are the men who change history. We have one such man as president.

33 posted on 11/19/2017 9:16:37 AM PST by IronJack
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To: dhs12345
It is those breif instances in human history when a human goes against his or her nature and does the right thing that moves us forward.

The dissenters generally don't fare well when they speak truth. As Mr. Goebbels put it, governments must use all their power to suppress truth, because it is anathema to the Big Lie. Dissent is fraught with danger, and good men have been erased for the hideous crime of telling the emperor he has no clothes.

Some persist in spite of that, and those are the men who change history. We have one such man as president.

34 posted on 11/19/2017 9:32:16 AM PST by IronJack
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To: Popman


" Images shone on a wall ... portraying what
our captors wish for us to believe (is reality)."
35 posted on 11/19/2017 10:10:58 AM PST by sparklite2 (-)
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To: IronJack

There are “two strikes”...


36 posted on 11/19/2017 10:51:18 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Daffynition

Chickenlooper seems to think so.


37 posted on 11/19/2017 12:43:49 PM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: Daffynition

How much of comrade governon Chickenlooper & Co’s investment portfolio ya figure is tied up in public infrastructure projects - or low income housing along the tracks these days?

Kinda interesting how “Vote for the train” wasn’t political in cube-land, but asking who pays for the infrastructure, was.

And remember - NO SLEEPING IN BEDS err {edit} WIF SHEETS!


38 posted on 11/19/2017 1:00:44 PM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: Daffynition

Ask Herby Marcuse and co about “communism” - and how profitable it was when the “father of new left” was pulling the cold-war out of his “analysis”.


39 posted on 11/19/2017 1:17:01 PM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: exDemMom

<>Now, I can only hope that he can bring down the foundations of that American totalitarian dictatorship, rather than just being a stumbling block in its inexorable advance.<>

President Trump alone cannot reform our institutions. That is up to us, We the People, through an Article V Convention of the States.


40 posted on 11/19/2017 3:04:19 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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