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A way to quickly fire Federal Employees (vanity)
Self | 14NOV17 | VANNROX

Posted on 11/14/2017 3:06:15 AM PST by vannrox

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To: bagster
It's been my experience that failing the probationary period of a new rank would result in being demoted to the previous rank and not termination.

Ok, promote, then eliminate the 'old' position, then fire!

41 posted on 11/14/2017 6:26:15 AM PST by Lockbox
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To: high info voter

Sort of along the lines of what Reagan did to air traffic controllers, assignments become unbearable, so union strikes - fire the lot of ‘em!


42 posted on 11/14/2017 6:45:32 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Dustoff45
In my career, those that fell in this category were ones that were allowed to transfer from other federal agencies.

Back in 1992 I was Active Duty and stationed at a DoD agency here in DC. During the Clinton reign of terror there was a cut in Federal employees and Clinton tried to take credit even though it was the Republican Congress.

I watched as the DoD took most of the personnel hits then all the low-lifes from the other civilian agencies were transferred into the now-empty DoD positions. I had more than one off these civilians tell me to my face they hated the military and would not perform any work for the DoD.

For two years before I retired I watched a group of about seven of these people as they spent most of their mornings standing in a hallway talking then go to a long lunch, then after lunch they would stand around and talk some more. During the months of nice weather I they would sit outside at a picnic table that was supposed to be used for lunchtime. I would usually arrive around 0530L and unlock my office (it was a vault) and then around 0900 I would go to my vehicle for some fresh air and get something. Those people would be there in the morning. When I went to lunch they would be gone for lunch then they would return around 1400L and then disappear for the rest of the day.

43 posted on 11/14/2017 9:34:59 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: BamaDi
I spent 36 years as a Federal employee, 20+ as a supervisor and believe me over the years I was only able to fire 3 different employees, one during the first year. The other two took a lot of work and documentation!!!!

When I got to my DoD agency in DC my office of five officers had a GS-11 secretary. She was quite young and as useless as tits on a Boar Hog. She admitted to being a stoner in her teens and she acted the part. What really amazed me was how she ended up with us because we had above TS-SCI clearances and worked in an open storage area. How she was able to get her clearance I'll never know.

We wanted to get her fired so my boss and I went to the personnel office and they told us what we needed to do for documentation and everything. Every time we did any documentation and paperwork we went upstairs and coordinated with Personnel. After a year we pressed to have the girl fired and the personnel office told us we couldn't do it as all the paperwork was wrong so they destroyed the entire folder.

To get rid of her we found another office that needed a loner secretary due to a pregnancy and while she was at that office we were able to justify eliminating our secretarial position.

44 posted on 11/14/2017 9:47:04 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: OldMissileer

Sounds about right.....I also spent 36 years with the Federal Government, 21 with DoD!


45 posted on 11/14/2017 10:50:20 AM PST by BamaDi ("The definition of a racist today is anyone who is winning an argument with a liberal.")
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To: OldMissileer
then disappear for the rest of the day.

Oh the memories, lol!

I can summarize an average day thus: Arrive at work, late, but not too late. If too late, say you were in the building but using the restroom.

Turn on your computer, check your personal email, personal schedule, make personal calls, browse the internet, play solitaire on Windows.

Take multiple breaks in the morning, coffee break, smoke break, multiple trips to recycle coffee.

Then out the door early for lunch, take a very long lunch, but if back late, say you made a stop at another office in the building,

Check both internal mail and company email, just to make sure you did not have someone trying to put a priority on you.

If anyone came to your office, calls you or sends you a request - tell them:

1) You don't do that,

2) You have something else that is due, (Actually overdue as you haven't started it yet) or

transfer the problem to another person.

Continue the afternoon with the same pattern of breaks you took in the morning. Leave a 1/2 hour early, and if caught, tell them your ride just called and they had an emergency at home and they are waiting for you.

Some of these folks never got more then an hour's worth of work done, even on a good day.

The best one was the secretary who was supposed to do our typing and refused every request for work, but did work for the one guy in the office, of the same origin, because he probably had her number. She put in for some fancy expensive outside training. The boss approved the training cost and the day off from work.

When she returned the boss asked her to type up a report of the class and somehow got her to say she attended the full class. He took a chance and called the instructor. At first the instructor said she might not be able to recall an individual in attendance as it was a large class, but upon further description the instructor readily recalled the employee as they had made a big stink in class over something. After lunch, the instructor specifically watched for our secretary and noticed she had never returned.

Immediate dismissal - FIRED falsification of official reports, No retirement, no more federal benefits. Good job Boss, and she had been an interagency transfer from another agency. No More!

46 posted on 11/14/2017 2:26:31 PM PST by Dustoff45 (Pass the spicy catsup. We've got Trump now.)
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To: TheCipher

“The civil service regulations and the federal employees union.”

Unions should be done away with—stroke of a pen. No regulations or ‘laws’ can supersede POTUS authority. That would be unconstitutional, now wouldn’t it? /rhet

Next.


47 posted on 11/14/2017 2:35:10 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America...Treat them accordingly.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Johnston Atoll is facing a critical manpower shortage.


48 posted on 11/14/2017 2:41:49 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: TheCipher
So transfer them to the worst postings possible

Someone needs to operate the weather station at Point Barrow ... and only the most senior people appointed by President 0bama can be trusted to do it right.

49 posted on 11/14/2017 2:47:08 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: markomalley

You sound like a bureaucrat.

I stand by what I said. No union regs etc can supersede the POTUS’ power in these regards.

“So my big question is why hasn’t Mr. Trump replaced them already? “

That’s kind of obvious, isn’t it? The corrupt and politicized fed ‘workforce’ is in open rebellion to Trump. Solidarity of the anti-American hillary voters. It’s a mexican standoff. You take us out, we’ll take you out.

Trump has to walk the tightrope because the corrupt congress is chomping at the bit to impeach him. That’s why

What would I do? Fire all bush, clinton, & omuslim holdovers aka Hillary voters. All 96% of the fed ‘workforce’. Damn the impeachment torpedoes full speed ahead. If the fed govt is not radically reduced by whatever means necessary, it’s all over except for the screaming and the dying.

Either Trump does it or the people will.


50 posted on 11/14/2017 2:52:33 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America...Treat them accordingly.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“Issue an EO decertifying the unions, and then, commence firing.”

Exactly


51 posted on 11/14/2017 2:53:34 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America...Treat them accordingly.)
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To: Electric Graffiti
Unions should be done away with—stroke of a pen

He could do away with unions by a stroke of a pen, but civil service regs are a little harder - they are so entwined in laws passed by Congress. He could try to do away with them with a stroke of a pen, but you know the swamp would challenge him in court. It will be tied up for years and most likely be decided by a liberal judge ( you know how that decision will come out ). So instead of cutting off the head of the snake, he can cut off the flow of blood to the head, making it ineffective. Here are a few things he could do :

Pay freeze

Revise what constitutes due process: - To make it easier to fire federal employees who are poor performers or who engage in misconduct .It would reduce notice for proposed adverse actions from 30 days to 10, reduce the time to file a Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB) appeal from 30 days to 7, and require MSPB to issue decisions on appeals within 60 days. If MSPB failed to act in 60 days, the adverse action would become final.

The Holman Rule. - allows any member of the House to submit amendments to appropriations bills to retrench expenditures by (1) reducing amounts of money in the bill, (2) reducing the salaries of Federal employees, or (3) reducing the compensation of any person paid by the Treasury. The effect is that an amendment could cut the pay of an individual employee to $1 ( though we would never see that happen ), reduce the budget of a program, office or agency, or cut federal pay in general. The Holman Rule predates the Pendleton Act that created the career civil service. It has not been used for decades. The rule allows for amendments, but they still must pass and of course it all relies on Congress.

52 posted on 11/14/2017 6:54:28 PM PST by TheCipher (To my mind Judas Iscariot was nothing but a low, mean, premature Congressman. - Mark Twain)
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