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To: Kaslin

Even after the Stalingrad disaster, the Germans could’ve recovered had Herr Dumbass listened to his generals.


3 posted on 11/09/2017 7:07:56 AM PST by PeteePie (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: PeteePie

Nope, not a chance. They were no match for American productivity, had a crappy geography, and were morally bankrupt (which does affect outcomes).

The Krauts were doomed


13 posted on 11/09/2017 7:26:39 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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To: PeteePie
Even after the Stalingrad disaster, the Germans could’ve recovered had Herr Dumbass listened to his generals.

They still would have lost to the Soviets. Way too many men and material and the guts to use them to terrible effect.

20 posted on 11/09/2017 7:40:17 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: PeteePie

“Even after the Stalingrad disaster, the Germans could’ve recovered had Herr Dumbass listened to his generals.”

Correct...
There are so many things the can be pointed to as “turning points” in the war that the phrase loses meaning.

Stalingrad was a disaster, but it was not unrecoverable. The Russians were just as stretched as the Germans were after it. The real “turning point” for Germany was the allied invasion of Sicily.

The Diversion of 1500 aircraft, and almost a third of the follow-on forces for Kursk, including veteran and best-equipped armor and motorized divisions to Italy, would have likely made all of the difference.

The Russians committed nearly all of their aircraft and artillery, and almost all of the reserve forces to the defense of Kursk, and the follow-on offensive.
Had that been defeated, or as Guderian advocated, a defense in depth along the Dnieper been allowed, the war could have dragged on for years.


43 posted on 11/09/2017 9:15:27 AM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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