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To: Oshkalaboomboom
The fact is that if the proper information was passed onto the authorities, this shooting could have been prevented

Quit with the bull$!t already. He could have failed 10 background checks and still have got guns to kill these people.

3 posted on 11/07/2017 9:39:56 PM PST by umgud
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To: umgud

Sssh - couching the facts in this way disarms the Democrats of much of their support for further gun bills. Let us not inform them of their error just yet - their main talking point in the immediate aftermath was a demand for more background checks and closing the ‘gun show loophole’. Since the facts have been stated in a way to discredit both proposals, they’ve basically shut up and mostly given up.

Do you want to be totally, completely factually correct with the liberals? Or do you want to *win* against the liberals? Choose; you cannot have both at this time.


7 posted on 11/07/2017 9:47:39 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: umgud
Not legally from an authorized gun dealer. While it's true that guns can be procured illegally, however, I think most people would not know where or how to go about accomplishing that task. Thus if his domestic violence conviction had been properly documented as it should have been it may have prevented him from acquiring a firearm. That being said I agree with you that his statement was not well thought out, as he made it seem like it was an impossibility. But most people should realize nonetheless, he was talking about being prevented, or at least severely stymied by existing gun laws.

But he still could have looked on the internet as to how to make bombs, and used a homemade bomb to have taken out the entire congregation along with the structure. If someone is committed to exercising evil, they will find a way if the will is strong enough.

15 posted on 11/07/2017 11:49:28 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: umgud
He could have failed 10 background checks and still have got guns to kill these people.

Or, he could have driven a loaded dump truck through the congregation as it left church.

People murder people, Without human involvement, inanimate objects, whether guns or vehicles, do not.

19 posted on 11/08/2017 1:58:41 AM PST by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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To: umgud

Liberals believe gun laws and background checks are mystical incantations and/or symbols that ward off Evil.

Problem-knives, bats, trucks, fists, and bullets all cut through paper with ease.


27 posted on 11/08/2017 5:53:27 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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