Posted on 11/07/2017 2:05:20 PM PST by detective
I *think* the finger just needs a pulse, it doesn't have to be alive.
Yep. I wonder why they didn’t use his finger/thumb print
shortly after he died to unlock it.
Why not ask the NSA? I thought they recorded everything.
Anyway, I would think the mother-in-law has the messages he sent her.
I see this as just the same as a bank deposit box. If the cops show up to a bank with a warrant then the bank must produce the key to open the box.
What is going on is that Apple and other teck giants have said that we do not make or keep duplicate keys so we will not comply with the warrant.
We need to pass legislation to ensure that teck companies maintain the keys so that legal warrants can be excised.
“Need a live finger for it to work.”
Shep or Cavuto just had a story about a woman — Indian, I think — who was on a flight with her husband. He fell asleep. She gently took his finger and unlocked his phone. It wasn’t pretty. Found out he was having an affair. Big disturbance on the plane and they had to make an emergency landing.
Waaaaaa.....
Why is the FBI involved? Why is this a federal concern?
That was on an earlier model phone. The method will not work on iPhone 6 and later.
They can get his ingoing and outgoing calls and text messages from his phone service provider
Same with his Internet browsing information
The FBI can tell if he was associated with any groups like Antifa and who his contacts are
What more do they need?
It's not like this guy was a North Korean spy or international man of mystery
Give it to my 10year old, open in 3 minutes!!
Exactly! I have no clue why you would use your fingerprint as stupid for commercial use. The only time you use or provide fingerprints is for passports and law purposes and NEVER for commercial purposes. Now Apple have a copy of your fingerprint in storage.
Other countries would want the same access, as a condition of Apple being allowed to sell iPhones in their countries.
So far, at least, Apple and other phone manufacturers have not given in to government demands for backdoors in their security, and that’s a good thing. The FBI’s need to know what’s on this lunatic’s phone does not outweigh my right to keep the contents of my phone private.
If the manufacturer can break the encryption (they can’t) then it isn’t secure.
If the manufacturer is required to build an NSA/FBI backdoor, it isn’t secure either.
he fractured a kids skull, beat his wife, held a gun to her head, got a bad conduct discharge from the USAF, beat a dog half to death in Pueblo Colorado and had the dog taken away, and STILL passed the FBI NICs Check.
And they whine they can’t see in his iphone. I say it would make no difference if all the rest didn’t. Maybe if they took action on all the rest of it, they wouldnt need into his phone today.
They are NOT going to admit this in court EVER.
Last time they tried to muscle Apple into not only providing a fig leaf for that one case, but for every case in the future.
They only backed off when it was claimed an Israeli company could crack the code, that gave them enough of a fig leaf to justify the information they had already illegally collected, along with all the data from every phone call and text and post YOU and I made.
As noted above, there is no proof they even used the Israeli company...
Oh well, back to court for the FBI unless they can find someone who can get into it.
Um, no. Strong encryption is strong encryption. If it's unbreakable, then that's the government's problem, not the individual's. You can't ban math—or require that a person store their private key with a third party—just because the math is hard.
If a tech company is storing my private key, then I might as well not be using encryption in the first place. If a person decides to go to great lengths to make their papers "secure", then they can't be forced to surrender their password. Seems like a Fourth and Fifth Amendment issue to me.
The situation is qualitatively different than having a physical key to a safe deposit box, for example. What if the duplicate key is lost? The government has to break into the box, right? Same is true for encryption. Only it's harder to "break in".
There's no legitimate way you can force individuals to give the government their private encryption keys...
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Why is it even necessary in this case? Guy had beef w/wife. History of domestic violence. Wife and her family at the church.
They act like crimes couldn’t be solved before the iphone came out.
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