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2017 Gun Trace Report Conceals As Much As It Reveals
Ammoland ^ | 6 November, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/07/2017 4:17:20 AM PST by marktwain

The City of Chicago has released its Gun Trace Report. It is a political, polemical document, with a vernier of respectability lent by the University of Chicago Crime Lab.

Prominently displayed are suggested restrictions on gun ownership, gun sales, and increased record keeping requirements.

While reading the document, I was looking to find how many guns were *not* traced. It is an important number. If the percentage of guns not traced is high, it undercuts any supposed utility of tracing guns.

Not only does the document lack any numbers for guns that were not traced, it conflates the numbers of traced guns with those of all confiscated guns.

From page 4 of the report:

Seven of the top ten source dealers are within Illinois, and six of those seven fall within the Cook County suburbs that border Chicago. The remaining FFL source dealers within the top ten are located in northwest Indiana. Collectively, these ten source dealers make up almost a quarter of the crime guns recovered in Chicago, despite the existence of many other federally licensed dealers in Chicago’s vicinity.

For the better part of a decade, Chuck’s Gun Shop and Midwest Sporting Goods have consistently remained the top two FFL source dealers for crime guns recovered by police in Chicago. Chuck’s Gun Shop and Midwest Sporting Goods continue to provide a strikingly large portion of the total number of traceable crime guns that includes more than 5,000 separate FFL dealers from all 50 states. These two dealers are the retail source of more than one in ten crime guns recovered in Chicago.

Notice the conflation of “traceable crime guns” with “crime guns”.

997 guns were traced to Chuck's Gun Shop over four years, 2013-2016. That is 6.7 percent of

(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; chicago; guntrace; tracereport
Interesting information can be gleaned form this political document. A little math is required.
1 posted on 11/07/2017 4:17:20 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

...If the percentage of guns not traced is high, it undercuts any supposed utility of tracing guns.... it conflates the numbers of traced...

As is typical of liberal created “statistics” in furtherance of anti gun rights laws.


2 posted on 11/07/2017 4:23:44 AM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: marktwain

Just more propaganda and Bullshit from the pink panty leftist pukes.


3 posted on 11/07/2017 4:32:06 AM PST by GoldenPup
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The report defines the firearms traced as ones that were involved in “gun crimes”, but it does not state what those crimes were.

How many of the firearms traced were reported stolen by the owner, and then recovered at the scene of a crime or taken off a suspect prior to being arrested?


4 posted on 11/07/2017 4:38:34 AM PST by Glennb51
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This sums it up fairly well.
“The vast majority of crime guns were handguns possessed by adults who were not the original purchaser of the firearm, and
if arrested, were charged with illegal firearm possession.”

Additionally, the “study” said that half of those arrested we’re gang involved.


5 posted on 11/07/2017 4:59:12 AM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: marktwain

The real problem here is the total number of available criminals in Chicago.


6 posted on 11/07/2017 5:49:24 AM PST by umgud
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To: Glennb51

The definition of “gun crimes” varies depending on whether your agenda is best served by a big number or small number. Watch for comparisons where city X is compared with State Y and a different definition is used for X than for Y.

Domestic violence?
...A gun was fired in domestic violence.
...A gun was waved in domestic violence.
...A gun was present in the home safely locked away

Street crime?
...A gun was fired
...A gun was waved
...No gun was involved in the street crime but a search found a gun in the car, the house, etc.

Stop and Frisk?
...A gun was found in the possession of a felon
...A gun was found in the possession of a known associate of felons
...A gun was found in the bushes or crack in the wall near the place where felons or associates of felons hang.

Oh by the way?
...On a traffic stop, on a drug bust at the wrong address, on normal police activity ... a gun was found to not be properly registered
...On normal police activty ... a gun was properly registered by seized anyway under forfeiture procedures.

Ooops?
...No record exists of how the police came to be in possession of this gun

Gun turn in?
...Guns were turned in at FR Flager’s phto op. We don’t ask where they came from. So we assume the worst when that helps our statistics.

Sloppy records?
...The original record showed that 53% of the weapons were guns while knvies, clubs, baseball bats, screw drivers were 47% of the weapons. That original data was rounded off to 100% of the weapons were guns.


7 posted on 11/07/2017 6:17:42 AM PST by spintreebob
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8 posted on 11/07/2017 6:28:25 AM PST by brianr10 (Beach Boys forever!)
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To: brianr10

Thanks.

Good correction.


9 posted on 11/07/2017 6:59:22 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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Damn it, I hate to have a word JUMP off a page that slaps my face..... “Vernier.?” Yes it is a word but let’s use proper usage of that word. “Veneer” is the right word.
Stop blaming spell check and proof your work.

Sorry for the rant but I would feel guilty if I didn’t call the foul.


10 posted on 11/07/2017 4:37:34 PM PST by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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brianr10 caught is first.


11 posted on 11/07/2017 4:39:28 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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