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Stock Market: Two Ways 2017 Differs From 2000 and 2007
Fortune Financial ^ | 11/01/2017 | Lawrence Hamtil

Posted on 11/01/2017 8:20:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

There is a lot of angst these days about the stock market, with the usual suspects calling for a crash that will dwarf those of 2000 and 2007.  The purpose of this article is not again to refute those naysayers, but to show two very important distinctions, - one fundamental, the other technical, - between today's market, and the markets of the two most recent significant peaks.

Fundamentally, as gauged by the S&P 500, the market's capitalization weighting by sector appears to be fundamentally in-line with the earnings contributions of those sectors.  Using the most recent quarterly data, one can see that the biggest disparity between market representation and earnings power is in the energy sector, with about a 2.5% difference between energy's capitalization weighting in the index and its earnings contribution.  The rest of the sectors are weighted roughly even with their earnings contributions:

This stands in stark contrast to 2006 (the last full year before the market peaked in October of 2007), when huge disparities existed in energy and materials, which, in retrospect, were the products of bubbles in those two sectors, which served to inflate their earnings:

2017 pales in comparison to 1999, the last full year of the tech bubble, when the value of technology shares far outpaced their fundamental contribution, while financial stocks were relatively underrepresented according to their profit share:

Today's market is also very technically different from these prior years.  For example, in 2000, the New York Stock Exchange's Advance-Decline line, a good measure of market breadth, peaked in early 1998 and subsequently declined for months while the S&P 500 continued to notch new highs, powered increasingly by few but heavily-weighted large-cap tech stocks:

In 2007, the New York Stock Exchange Advance-Decline line peaked in August 2007 (see highlighted area on chart), and failed to make a new all-time high, even as the S&P 500 did just that two months later.  In retrospect, the lack of breadth in the market should have been a warning that that particular bull market was getting long in the tooth:

Today, both the overall stock market and the S&P 500 are showing exemplary strength, with both measures showing broad participation in the seemingly relentless advance of thte stock market:

In sum, there are many reasons to be fearful:  unlike previous peaks, valuations are uniformly high, and interest rates historically low, leaving investors with few lucrative places to hide.  Yet, according to these measures, today's market, seems to be on solid footing and technically sound.  There does not seem to be a reason for equity investors to panic just yet.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crash; stockmarket; stockmarketgraph

1 posted on 11/01/2017 8:20:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

These are two metrics to say things aren’t peaked yet. They do not state that the market is/isn’t overvalued. P/E ratios indicate that the market is overvalued in many stocks. Be careful out there.


2 posted on 11/01/2017 8:34:00 AM PDT by reed13k
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To: SeekAndFind

Personally I think there are a lot of brakes that can be employed to prevent monstrous drops all at once that makes it a huge difference a lot of those things can be programmed in advance to make it less of a bumpy ride... is that fair probably not but that is what we have in this day and age as technology continues to either improve or not improve our lives.


3 posted on 11/01/2017 8:34:55 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Extraordinary acts of God often start with ordinary acts of obedience. P. Yefros)
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To: SeekAndFind

When to know if you will be buying high, or should you be selling high’ that is the question. To me it means O.K., but also raise your “rainy day fund” too. While investing may seem good at the moment, I think spending less right now and saving more (cash or solid fixed income instruments) would be a good thing.


4 posted on 11/01/2017 8:39:27 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

“I think spending less right now and saving more”

There is NEVER a time when this is bad advice.


5 posted on 11/01/2017 9:24:59 AM PDT by skinndogNN
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To: Wuli
When to know if you will be buying high, or should you be selling high’ that is the question.

I follow a simple three fund portfolio plan. I hold index funds tracking the total US market, a broad international index fund, and a broad market bond fund. I split them up at about 60% equities (about 50% US, 10% international) and 40% bonds. Then twice a year I go in and look at the percentages and see if they still match my 50%/10%/40% mix. Because the market is growing like crazy and bonds stink, the US stocks in particular tend to be way above their 50% proportion so I sell them back down to that level and buy bonds to bring that percentage back up to 40%. Basically I'm selling when stocks are high. Eventually when the stocks do finally drop almost half my money is sitting in bonds and ready to be used to buy the stocks back up to their 50% portfolio level. So buying stocks when they are cheap. Each investor who follows this strategy would want to decide what their own risk profile is and what percentage of bonds they would want as a hedge. Some set their percentage of bonds to be equal to their age, so that as they get older more of their money is stashed in the safest bin. I haven't gone that far but close.

Works for me and don't need a broker or certified financial planner to get it done. Your mileage may vary.

6 posted on 11/01/2017 9:57:40 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie
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To: pepsi_junkie

My pension fund does some very similar things as you. In either way it’s what is often called “prudent” investing. Not “risk averse”, but spreading risk and hedging a bit.


7 posted on 11/01/2017 11:19:48 AM PDT by Wuli
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