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Legalization Isn't the Solution to the Opioid Crisis
Townhall.com ^ | November 1, 2017 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 11/01/2017 7:05:20 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

We shouldn’t be guarding Poppy fields in Afghanistan EITHER!

But here we are, guarding the fields in Afghanistan, and having an opium problem in the US, meanwhile the countries that hate us make tons of money growing and trafficking in heroin...

Afghanistan - Hates us, we guard the poppy fields
Mexico - Hates us, we still have porous borders that heroin pours across...
Many countries in between hate us that gets Scratch from the trafficking..

I am not saying we should legalize or anything, but right now, “Boy are we DUMB” to quote President Donald Trump!


21 posted on 11/01/2017 9:14:56 AM PDT by GraceG ("It's better to have all the Right Enemies, than it is to have all the Wrong Friends.")
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To: Kaslin

y understanding is that large part of the problem is because of prescriptions. That is a legal process which may be abused.


22 posted on 11/01/2017 9:16:03 AM PDT by morphing libertarian (A proud member of the Ruthie Bader Afternoon Nap Club)
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To: Kaslin

U.S. citizens do not have the intestinal fortitude to do what is necessary to stop drugs.


23 posted on 11/01/2017 9:17:32 AM PDT by Joe Bfstplk (A Texas Deplorable.)
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To: Joe Bfstplk

some of us just don’t care. You want to mess up your life, it’s a free country. You violate law, then go to jail.


24 posted on 11/01/2017 9:19:06 AM PDT by morphing libertarian (A proud member of the Ruthie Bader Afternoon Nap Club)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Drug prohibition, next to slavery was the worst social policy ever enacted.


25 posted on 11/01/2017 9:19:09 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

People are living off the grid and are being forced to work and live in the gray market as a direct result of more and more oppressive and intrusive government regulations.

Where I used to live - I could not even have a garage sale without a city permit. I could not even have a plumber replace a hot water heater without a permit. So yeah. Some guy in a plain white van replaced the water heater.

Some guy who was likely an illegal and was also living just fine - off the grid.


26 posted on 11/01/2017 9:22:27 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: livius
Well put. I think it's a a fallacy that most of these addicts are guys that hurt their back one day and within in a short time were scoring the streets looking for heroin

The streets are flooded with heroin. Heroin that people initially start off smoking and pretty quickly start injecting. Smoking something is a lot less scary then injecting. (especially dangerous when half the country is now smoking marijuana on a regular basis--I smell it everywhere these days) Users and experimenters always think it won't happen to them, they can control it. They are different.

People who use drugs, typically DO have a drug of choice but never balk at other forms of getting high when the DOC isn't available or stacking the high with other drugs.

27 posted on 11/01/2017 9:23:50 AM PDT by riri
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To: Kaslin

Crazy notion

There is no opiod crisis

It’s just usual follow the money hyteria


28 posted on 11/01/2017 9:26:37 AM PDT by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shot on sight...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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To: jmacusa

Drug prohibition, next to slavery was the worst social policy ever enacted.

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Maybe where you live, but I wouldn’t know. I live here in the USA where “drug prohibition” is a fallacy. A joke played on us citizens by our government who has profited handsomely off the so call War on Drugs.


29 posted on 11/01/2017 9:28:07 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

Works pretty well in Singapore.


30 posted on 11/01/2017 9:30:49 AM PDT by riri
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To: riri

Indeed.

How and why people here in the USA moan and groan about “drug prohibition” laws should buy a clue.


31 posted on 11/01/2017 9:38:30 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

Uh, that’s what I said.


32 posted on 11/01/2017 9:42:44 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: LouAvul

“You’re not going to get addicted from a single Rx. They’ll give you, what, 30 pills?”

30 doses of a strong opiate is quite sufficient to develop an addiction.


33 posted on 11/01/2017 10:05:37 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Kaslin

Executing drug dealers will reduce the problem considerably.


34 posted on 11/01/2017 11:10:46 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
...I do not understand how the average middle-class person maintains a habit — except through a complicit medical profession.

IOW, AMA drug dealers. Instead of healing the problem they sell a relief. By appointment with guaranteed payment by Medicaid in a lot of cases. No better than a street dealer.

35 posted on 11/01/2017 11:15:51 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
If everyone were forced to live under all of the current set of laws, taxes, and regulations then there would be a greater groundswell for less government.

Off-the-grid living would become less attractive with the change to a Fair Tax system. Off the grid means no prebate, yet you still pay the sales tax on your purchases.

36 posted on 11/01/2017 11:20:47 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Kaslin
you see....the users are supposed to put their needles in that red container but the users are just so irresponsible....

this after all these years when the libtards telling us that if we legalize drugs, people will be sensible about it...

37 posted on 11/01/2017 11:23:35 AM PDT by cherry
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Executing drug dealers will reduce the problem considerably.

But then we'd have a doctor shortage ...

38 posted on 11/01/2017 11:34:37 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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To: LouAvul
"There was a period where doctors were required to treat pain as a symptom, and gave pain pills because of a legal obligation/liability. But now that the medical community has seen the affect of that philosophy, they're backtracking"

research the Joint Commission on national pain protocols and how the push to treat pain was MANDATED....drs had little choice and little discretion....neither did hospitals...

thus, the widespread prescribing of opioids...

however, our problem today is more a problem of drug seekers using any means...frequent ER visits, vague symptoms, vague injuries, easy access to disability...and if that don't work, steal from the old people who seem to stockpile drugs, or rob and steal so you can buy drugs....

you would not believe how many people get early disability for knee or back problems and get free money and free drugs...

we are being scammed....

39 posted on 11/01/2017 11:35:07 AM PDT by cherry
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To: jpl

Agreed.


40 posted on 11/01/2017 11:36:42 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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