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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Once South Carolina declared its independence, the Federal government had no reason to maintain an armed force at Fort Sumter.

A small compromise to prevent a war. Relinquish it.


16 posted on 10/31/2017 8:49:49 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

See #18.

Methinks peaceful compromise comes better from “you made X, it’s yours, keep it” than “you made X, now give it to me & GTFO.”


19 posted on 10/31/2017 8:52:58 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: BenLurkin
These civil war threads never fail to amuse, because the invariably devolve into juvenile 'should, would, could'. However, it doesn't matter what moral cause which side champions & advocates, the bottom line is that the Union was never, ever going to allow a competing state to emerge to contest over control of N America.

Anyone in any position of influence & control, whether it politics or business, whether an American or European, understood at least by the 1850s, if not earlier, the promise a unified US held in terms of world power. Any nominal projection of immigration and birth rates could easily predict the sum total population and economic power the US would exert in a relatively short amount of time. (Which was proven 50 years later in 1917.)

Banking, finance and commercial interests all had a stake in this outcome. It was inevitable - as long as the Union held. So, what occurred in 1861 is essentially the same thing that happened in Catalonia last weekend. There is no way on earth that a separation was going to be allowed. One side can advocate abolishing slavery, the other self-determination or whatever cause du jour floats their boat.

It was always about preserving the Union, and not exactly the noble reasons espoused by Lincoln, et al. Rather, it was simply a raw exercise in power, no different than GBs attempt at defeating the Revolution. If you think you can pull it off, go ahead and try, but that doesn't mean the controlling power is going to let you escape without a fight.

46 posted on 10/31/2017 11:29:07 AM PDT by semantic
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