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Trump Chief of Staff John Kelly Says ‘Lack of Compromise’ Led to Civil War
NBC News ^ | October 31, 2017 | ALEX JOHNSON

Posted on 10/31/2017 8:17:25 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

White House Chief of Staff John Kelly waded into the long-simmering dispute over the removal of memorials to Confederate leaders saying in a televised interview on Monday night that "the lack of an ability to compromise led to the Civil War."

In the interview on Fox News' "The Ingraham Angle," host Laura Ingraham asked Kelly about the decision by Christ Church, an Episcopal congregation in the Washington suburb of Alexandria, Virginia, to remove plaques honoring President George Washington and Robert E. Lee, the commander of Confederate forces during the Civil War.

"Well, history's history," said Kelly, whom President Donald Trump moved from secretary of homeland security to be his chief of staff in July. "You know, 500 years later, it's inconceivable to me that you would take what we think now and apply it back then. I think it's just very, very dangerous. I think it shows you just how much of a lack of appreciation of history and what history is."

Confrontations over removal of Confederate monuments have exposed deep rifts in American society between advocates who argue that the Civil War is a foundation stone of American history whose combatants acted out of conscience and those who contend that the memorials honor Southern defenders of slavery who betrayed their country by launching an armed rebellion.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: civilwar; dixie; johnkelly; purge
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

ever wonder why the prince of fools cuddles up tp lincoln so much!


21 posted on 10/31/2017 8:57:23 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

As much as certain semi-educated citizens and modern-day Blacks like to flatter themselves by preaching that the Civil War was about ending slavery, it was not. We had war when Lincoln called up troops to invade the South.


22 posted on 10/31/2017 9:00:05 AM PDT by myerson
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To: Buckeye McFrog
so......we should have agreed to let black people remain in a LITTLE BIT of slavery?

You mean like President Lincoln did when he famously "Freed the slaves?"

Except his Emancipation Proclamation freed only the slaves in the southern states.

He left it legal to own black slaves in the northern states.


23 posted on 10/31/2017 9:00:16 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Libtards wish anarchy and death for others, but exempt themselves.)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler
Lincoln had a responsibility to uphold the laws of the land.

No one expected the war would cost so much or last so long.

24 posted on 10/31/2017 9:01:11 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: djpg
Confrontations over removal of Confederate monuments have exposed deep rifts in American society between advocates who argue that the Civil War is a foundation stone of American history whose combatants acted out of conscience and those who contend that the memorials honor Southern defenders of slavery who betrayed their country by launching an armed rebellion.

The libs are the very people advocating armed rebellion against the current government.

25 posted on 10/31/2017 9:06:36 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Progressivism is 2 year olds in a poop fight.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Lincoln had a responsibility to uphold the laws of the land.

Respectfully, what specific laws was he upholding?


26 posted on 10/31/2017 9:07:42 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Libtards wish anarchy and death for others, but exempt themselves.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The Civil War wasn’t about slavery. Slavery was the reason used by financial interests to gin up war sentiment in the north.


27 posted on 10/31/2017 9:12:00 AM PDT by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler
Let the flaming begin!

It's good to talk about the causes and consequences of previous wars. It would do the nation well to understand more fully the causes and effects of the Civil War.

The other war with horrific consequences and questionable reasons to go to war is WW1. Meddling in Mideast affairs, redrawing borders, and the horrific loss of life by males who actually fought it are at the root of many of our problems today. Another factor is that bankers and elite profiteers since then have spun out of control in their lust to destroy cultural differences and solidify their control over world leadership and economy.

Let the flaming begin!

28 posted on 10/31/2017 9:21:17 AM PDT by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The Republicans offered a great deal of compromise, but the Democrats who ran the Slave Power didn’t want any part of it.


30 posted on 10/31/2017 9:24:14 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Lincoln had a responsibility to uphold the laws of the land.

So has every President, name one that actually did, but not selectively.

31 posted on 10/31/2017 9:25:11 AM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Not all slave states were in the south. NY was a slave state. The southern states were making trade deals with our mortal enemy Great Britian. GB was against slavery, but ran the slave trade.

What the south was doing was unconstitutional. No state is to enter a trade agreement. Especially, with a hostile nation. Let’s say North Dakota decided to trade Bakken oil for North Korean workers.

The compromise would have been something like this: Stop trading with our enemies or we will make you stop.

The Southern States told the Northern States to go fornicate themselves. The Northern States carried through on thier promise.


32 posted on 10/31/2017 9:27:00 AM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“Lack of compromise led to the Civil War”?

No, it was too much compromise that led to the Civil War, starting in the 1820’s.

The seeds were sown by the Missouri Compromise, The Compromise of 1850, and the Kansas Nebraska Act. And by Supreme Court “compromise” rulings like Dred Scott.

Compromise and indecisiveness also led to the demise of the Whig Party, and the start of the Republican Party, which is now on a suicide watch as it emulates the Whig Party on modern issues where it constantly “reaches across the aisle” to help the democrat socialists enact anti-American laws and destroy American culture.

16 Compromising Republicans were tossed aside by the American voters for a non-compromising Donald Trump who actually stood for principles that previously had no defenders.

Compromise, General?
Tell that to the democrats.


33 posted on 10/31/2017 9:28:58 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Even back then they knew that compromising with bad policy is like adding a little sewage to0 your drinking water.


34 posted on 10/31/2017 9:30:05 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Slavery was already on the way out.
Land depletion and mechanization plus civilized opinion would have accomplished what it took Lincoln three years to declare.


35 posted on 10/31/2017 9:34:32 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler
He left it legal to own black slaves in the northern states.

Of whom there were so few, and the practice was so socially unacceptable that it was dying out anyway.

36 posted on 10/31/2017 9:35:36 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed
He [Lincoln] left it legal to own black slaves in the northern states.

Of whom there were so few, and the practice was so socially unacceptable that it was dying out anyway.

That would be small comfort to the blacks in the northern states who remained in slavery.

And there were more than just a few although far, far less than in the south.


37 posted on 10/31/2017 9:46:14 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Libtards wish anarchy and death for others, but exempt themselves.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia; Sacajaweau; Buckeye McFrog; RicocheT; Dawgreg
John Kelly correctly identifies political failure as the reason for the Civil War. Slavery was a dying institution when the Constitution was approved, and was later revived by the invention of the cotton gin. Never the less, Britain abolished slavery in 1833.

Military involvement came after abolitionists and planters and their political allies failed to identify from British precedent those compromises outside inflexible ideologies that would have brought peaceful agreement. Through their dereliction of duty these fire-eating miscreants of both persuasions stumbled us into the Civil War.

The bloodiest conflict our country ever endured resolved the issues of states’ rights, secession, and slavery, and relied exclusively on military actions. These military actions were fought out to the last measure of human endurance. Great men like Grant, Sherman, Lee, and Johnston, and their soldiers and sailors resolved what should have been political issues. Monuments North and South testify to the sincerity of those few who endured the tragedy of that struggle.

Now similar mediocre intellectual dwarfs would repudiate this history.

38 posted on 10/31/2017 9:51:58 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: Buckeye McFrog

the point was neither side was going to compromise - not that they should have. just because #fakenews takes it out of context doesn’t mean others should do so. also the subject came up in context of plaque at Christ Church - the church of Geo Washington and Robert E Lee. context is all, people. you went for the bait.


39 posted on 10/31/2017 9:55:07 AM PDT by avital2
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To: Retain Mike

Thank you Mike. Beautifully and well put. Right on the mark.......;)


40 posted on 10/31/2017 10:35:50 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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