[A Navy Vet]

"Atheism is commonly called the belief that there aren’t any gods or the lack of belief in gods. But in a more accurate, philosophical sense, it is the knowledge that gods do not exist. This is easily seen by how an atheist answers the question: “Is there a God?” Belief is irrelevant to the question; knowledge is what’s important—with the only possible responses to be “yes,” “no,” or “I don’t know.”

Is it me or is that the most nonsensical piece of blather currently on this board? What is his point differentiating between belief of no god or knowing there is no god. The knowledge part is impossible to prove and has no relevance to a belief, which also implies knowledge of a god. The two are unrelated in any context.

This is an educated man who is some sort of "writing" seer?...and he spends his time writing such circular nonsense? I am, therefore, I am. Or at least I believe I am, which suggests I know I am. But then, may be I'm not and exist in a computer matrix. Human senses are what some electrical neurons tell us what senses are. Pfft.

[Raymond Pamintuan]

I read the entire article several times, and the author demonstrates there is a very real difference between knowledge and belief.

His figure one illustration is in a court setting. There is a difference when a witness says, “I KNOW the defendant was at the scene of the crime” from “I BELIEVE the defendant was at the scene of the crime.”

This is why knowledge ALWAYS outweighs belief. As he says, “The court does not care what you believe; its concern is on what you know.”

He also points out “knowledge” can either be independently verifiable or it cannot be - but just because it can’t doesn’t make the knowledge statement false.

The example he gave in Figure 1 is:

“if Mary testified that Mark told her he was the one who stole the money but he then refused to confess to investigators; that ‘non-replicability’ is inadequate to disprove Mary’s claim.”

As a Christian, I can honestly say I KNOW God exists. I don’t believe he exists - I know he exists. I have this certainty because I’ve felt the Holy Spirit within me - I’ve felt God’s very presence. I’ve never seen him and no saint or angel has ever appeared to me. I can never prove my witness to anyone else. But I KNOW he is real.

This is why I was so happy to see his Figure 3! He clearly differentiates the core perspectives of theism and atheism.

I suggest you take the time to read his article again because this is a fantastic tool for any Christian who wants logical support for their faith.