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We spend more to jail our kids than to educate them. It’s time we stop
NATIONAL EDUCATION ASSOCIATION ^ | October 24, 2017 | President, NEA. Lily Eskelsen García

Posted on 10/24/2017 5:02:30 PM PDT by mdittmar

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To: mdittmar

Homeschooling costs a family as little as a couple hundred a year. Public school is some $6000+/child.


61 posted on 10/25/2017 6:54:43 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Goblins, Orcs and the Undead: Metaphors for the godless left.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
Have you ever taught public school?

It's a lie, there isn't such a thing.

The public, other than pay and pay and pay....gets what? Babysitting. Every year we see higher prices for lower education (insuring they don't receive any) Despite the highest costs per student (another lie, they see none of it) we have some of the worst learning results in the world.

The public has little-to-nothing to say about what goes on in the classroom.

62 posted on 10/25/2017 7:11:09 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs...same thing)
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To: yarddog

The black literacy rate 120 years ago was higher than it is today!


63 posted on 10/25/2017 9:16:29 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan
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To: loveliberty2
Thank you for that wonderful link!

An excerpt, from the Introduction:

"It is a high privilege to be a citizen of the United States. There are those in less fortunate circumstances who would gladly give all they possess for the mere chance to come here to live."

So yeah, I can see why leftists would hate this. It implies America is great.

64 posted on 10/25/2017 9:22:30 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan
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To: A_perfect_lady

Ma’am, I taught for a while. It was very difficult. The savages ruined it for everyone else.

A school I was at actually had another FReeper there.

Upon analysis, I concluded she was part of the problem. She was running out the clock until retirement.


65 posted on 10/25/2017 9:33:31 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan
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To: Mears
Interesting how things change.

I went to public school for three years,after 9 years in the Catholic Schools.

This was back in the 1970s and the Catholic Schools had better teachers.

Got straight A's the three years in public school,was on the Honor role,it was very easy.

66 posted on 10/25/2017 9:38:57 AM PDT by mdittmar
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To: T-Bone Texan

Thank you!!! Before the NEA became an arm of the Progressive movement’s takeover of all the control points in education in America, its literature and materials included little booklets (I have one before me now titled, “A Golden Treasury from the Bible”) intended to be given to children to develop citizenship qualities.


67 posted on 10/25/2017 9:40:45 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

These are just excuses to avoid doing the gritty work really required: for conservatives to become teachers and steer things back in the direction they used to go. You could not handle it. And because you have no idea what it’s like, you have no more useful advice to give than Pajama Boy can tell how the military should be run.


68 posted on 10/25/2017 11:39:36 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: T-Bone Texan

Yes, it’s a very difficult job. This is my 14th year, and I won’t last much longer. But I wish more conservatives would get in there and fight.


69 posted on 10/25/2017 11:41:05 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady
These are just excuses to avoid doing the gritty work really required

HA!

The work required is to: abolish the DoED, the state depts of ed, decertify the teachers unions, pass voucher legislation at the state level, and return the schools to local control. All the conservative teachers you can muster cannot accomplish that.

for conservatives to become teachers and steer things back in the direction they used to go.

Conservatives do not become public school teachers for the same reason they don't become whores.

You could not handle it.

I'm getting tired of your condescending attitude. Stop telling me what I can and can't handle. Why would anyone but a brain-dead moron subject themselves to working in the communist/queer "educator" whore-house?

Oh wait...is that what you do?

because you have no idea what it’s like.

Of course I do. I've spoken to a few Republican teachers (I couldn't find a lot) they spoke to me in hushed tones, and live in constant fear that they'll be found out, living a secret life, staying to themselves at break-time and after hours. They said it was OK when they started out, but it's gotten worse and worse as time goes by. They only stay now so they won't lose their retirement benefits.

They told me it was the worst decision they ever made in their lives.

If you want to do some good, gather your cohorts and start a private school, join a charter school lobby. Go to DC and browbeat RINOs.

70 posted on 10/25/2017 12:17:17 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs...same thing)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Oh, you’ve “talked to” conservative teachers, so you know all about it? You know nothing. You’re just a big mouth behind a screen calling for things that will never happen, because you do not have the testicular fortitude to get into the trenches and fight. And why? I say again: You could not handle it. I am telling you, with your excess of attitude and shortage of actual information, you would not last a day. You don’t have the long-term dedication. You’re like a picketer who walks the line for a few hours and then retires, in exhaustion, to the pub. You and all the lazy ignoramuses on here who talk smack about teachers are all the same. You let liberals take over this field and you are to blame for the results.


71 posted on 10/25/2017 3:06:59 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: DoughtyOne

Agreed.


72 posted on 10/25/2017 3:17:12 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
You're a union-thug educRAT aren't you.

Yes, I talked to Republican teachers. I've also talked to education majors ...the dumbest people on the planet.

I've sat in on committees for weeks and I've heard it all. I've been threatened, talked down to and sworn at....all by allegedly civilized members of the "educator" community.

I've been berated and dismissed by representatives of the Principal's Association and the Superintendent's Association (more unions for incompetent redundant overpaid parasites)

I know how much of the taxpayer's hard earned money is thrown down the "education" RAThole. And most of it goes to the overpaid/underskilled perverts, babysitting our children.

If anyone is lacking in the skills to educate children, it's the mainstream moonbat educRAT. They turn out graduates with no writing and spelling skills, many functionally illiterate, no knowledge of history, no life skills, no concept of our Constitution and who have no clue when it comes to knowing the difference between right and wrong.

Additionally, now they're being "educated" that it's OK to be queer or deny your natural "sexual ID".

You are defending the indefensible. The socialist indoctrination centers (failed public schools) need to be terminated, ripped out by the roots, defunded, rejected and forgotten about...like a bad dream)

Those good teachers will find jobs in proper schools, or start their own.

The remaining moonbats can clean toilets or flip burgers....go homeless as far as I'm concerned....which isn't very much.

DONE!

73 posted on 10/25/2017 3:52:48 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs...same thing)
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To: Mears

bfl


74 posted on 10/25/2017 4:01:45 PM PDT by Mears
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
And......The so-called “conservative” teachers who remain are merely enablers of evil.

The socialist-entitlement and Marxist dominated government schools can not be fixed. When has any socialist-entitlement been fixed? Never!

If the so-called “conservative” teachers really cared about kids they would be working to close the government schools down.

75 posted on 10/25/2017 4:08:40 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: A_perfect_lady
I call it enabling evil in exchange for a paycheck, vacation that no one in the private sector sees, and a generous pension.
76 posted on 10/25/2017 4:12:36 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: wintertime

Exactly, it’s not even salvageable. I told her that in my first post. Shut down the schools and rent out the buildings to someone who wants to run a school.

Tear it all down...man!
- some hippie


77 posted on 10/25/2017 4:54:12 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs...same thing)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Until you have done the job, you know nothing. You are on the outside looking in. You’re like some snowflake who sat on a committee about funding the military and thinks she knows what it’s like to be in combat. Moreover, you have no self-control. You are incapable of doing anything but standing on the sidelines like a Monday Morning Quarterback, jeering that you could coach it better when you couldn’t even catch a ball. Done? You’re done when you shut up, which you cannot do, which is why any adolescent could unravel you in 10 seconds flat.


78 posted on 10/25/2017 7:12:22 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: wintertime

You call it that so you can hand it off to other people, rather like you handed off your own kid when you went on vacation. Was it Guatemala?


79 posted on 10/25/2017 7:13:26 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: mdittmar

The prisons have been filled with Bastards since the dawn of time.


80 posted on 10/25/2017 7:24:23 PM PDT by The Toll
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