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To: Ken H

I am nervous about the wording of the charge-Receiving child porn. If receiving is a crime, especially with email then anyone can be sent an email then busted for it. Soliciting porn would be a different thing and understandable actionable.


12 posted on 10/22/2017 5:46:36 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: arthurus

——Salamak used email to seek and obtain images of child sexual abuse, including images of prepubescent children.-——

Yes, he received images after asking for them....


16 posted on 10/22/2017 5:52:07 PM PDT by Popman (My sin was great, Your love was greater  What could separate us now…)
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To: arthurus
I am nervous about the wording of the charge-Receiving child porn. If receiving is a crime, especially with email then anyone can be sent an email then busted for it. Soliciting porn would be a different thing and understandable actionable.

If you don't open an email, I don't think you would liable, but that is old legal advice. I had it happen to me once, and was advised not to open the email, because it was obvious about the content. Good point!

17 posted on 10/22/2017 5:53:48 PM PDT by Ace's Dad (BTW, "Ace" is now Captain Ace. But only when I'm bragging about my airline pilot son!)
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To: arthurus

Yep! In 1997, I received some crap from a woman I met online. Only two pictures, thankfully, but enough to freak me out and want to smash my computer into Oblivion. The pics weren’t even that extreme, so it was likely her way of drawing me in. I was young, then. Today, I’d be talking with the State’s A.G.


25 posted on 10/22/2017 7:02:45 PM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: arthurus

“Salamak used email to seek and obtain images of child sexual abuse, including images of prepubescent children...The AP reported: Prosecutors say an undercover officer first made contact with Salamak after he posted on Craigslist that he was looking for women and moms “that are into Cheese Pizza,” a reference to child pornography.”

Sounded more like he was asking around for it...and then received it, at least in his case. Most likely that’s the standard, but given how broadly laws are written now, you still may have a point regarding future cases.


26 posted on 10/22/2017 7:04:14 PM PDT by BobL
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To: arthurus

I am nervous about the wording of the charge-Receiving child porn. If receiving is a crime, especially with email then anyone can be sent an email then busted for it. Soliciting porn would be a different thing and understandable actionable.

Agreed. You can't control what someone sends you. All you can really do is delete it and report it to local police, which probably won't do a lot of good, as chances are the apparent sender is probably not the actual sender. Now, if your inbox is full of saved messages with that crap, that's a different story. Also, most email clients don't actually delete the email when you tell it to delete. It just marks it for deletion and is possibly moved to a "trash" folder/directory. To actually get rid of it, you'd have to delete and empty the trash. I know that in my case, because I use Thunderbird, I'd also 'compact' my inbox, as that does a more thorough job of removing it.

34 posted on 10/23/2017 10:29:15 AM PDT by zeugma (I always wear my lucky red shirt on away missions!)
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