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Senate passes a budget, moving the GOP closer to tax reform (a $4 Trillion Budget Measure)
CNBC ^ | 10/20/2017 | Jacob Pramuk

Posted on 10/20/2017 9:00:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: mrreaganaut
What tax increases? And why are they Trump’s tax cuts instead of Congress’s? More facts and fewer talking points, please.

Good questions.

1. If you eliminate a deduction, and hence have to pay much more in Federal taxes, that is a "tax increase" - any way you slice it. There is no defense on arguing this, unless you are completely without reason.

2. I never said they were Trump's tax increases, but I said he never campaigned on raising my taxes. Agree on both of those statements?

3. I am with Trump 100%. I love the man, truth be told. And I know he is trying to lessen the blow with this state and local tax deduction, but the latest I have heard is that is he ready to be rolled by Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell because he is so desperate for a Congressional victory.

What else would you like to know? I am not being flippant, I really want to answer your questions. Thanks.

21 posted on 10/21/2017 12:26:44 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: goldstategop
Trump looks set to get his tax cuts.

Except these are not "tax cuts" on millions of middle class Americans who will have to pay more taxes in order to "pay for" the cuts for corporations, who are making out like bandits in this deal.

I am not making this up: corporations are getting a HUGE tax break, and middle class Americans are going have to "pay for" that. Over 44,000,000 Americans claim the state and local tax deduction.

If this passes, the GOP and millions of us can say "good bye."

Do you realize this?

22 posted on 10/21/2017 12:32:09 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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Say good bye to what?


23 posted on 10/21/2017 12:37:03 PM PDT by oust the louse (The LEFT has no principles, it only has goals! They are the party of death and taxes.)
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To: oust the louse
Gee, I dunno?

Fun to play these games. Isn't it?

24 posted on 10/21/2017 1:30:46 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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“And I know he is trying to lessen the blow with this state and local tax deduction, but the latest I have heard is that is he ready to be rolled by Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell because he is so desperate for a Congressional victory.”

Yeah, that’s what I’m worried about too.

My secret fantasy is that the usual suspects do screw up this budget, but Trump counters with a flat 10% (including Social Security) and all deductions eliminated. True, folks in high-tax states would have to pay local taxes on top of that, but that’s incentive to vote the Dems out.

The worst outcome would be the usual suspects screw up without Trump having a cunning plan to have the voters punish the ones actually responsible.


25 posted on 10/21/2017 7:49:57 PM PDT by mrreaganaut (Hindsight for Democrats will be 2020.)
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