Posted on 10/16/2017 7:03:45 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
According to what I can find online only two were ever fired in combat.
3 launches during the 91' Gulf War. 2 never even ignited, the third missed.
...(gross versus net)...
IIRC, gross versus net equals lots of profit on billions.
Especially when what you get isn’t what you need for the purpose intended with a
lot due to a rush job causing delays, cost overruns, problems, and mistakes. The Ft. Walton Beach News media (home of F35 wing in Florida) has been covering the F35 mistakes extensively.
Number built: 231 as of March 2017
Solution: Stop building them
“Essentially at least 10% of the F-35 program will become just very expensive trainers.”
Pretty much standard.
“The Ft. Walton Beach News media (home of F35 wing in Florida) has been covering the F35 mistakes extensively.”
Which is amusing since back when Valparaiso was still suing they were a lot more pro-F-35.
“Anything else goes outside and makes it unstealthy.”
Keep saying that any time you can. Hopefully our enemies will believer you.
“Anything else goes outside and makes it unstealthy.”
Keep saying that any time you can. Hopefully our enemies will believe you.
“Solution: Stop building them”
If we did that for every weapon system that ever had issues our troops would be nekid and wielding sticks.
There were 12 F-15 prototypes, that less than 1% of the production total. And that was bleeding edge tech in the 70's.
8 test and 187 operational F-22's. Again, bleeding edge aircraft.
And 10% is the minimum for the F-35. It's a turkey that should be canceled.
WTF man. You are comparing test articles to train aircraft. Apples and Oranges.
Can you even name a munition that you can hang on a wing or fuselage that doesn't break stealth or are you just trolling?
Did you FOLLOW th3e F-22 program? It had piles of overruns and teething issues. They were still writing the software when the productions models were coming off the line JUST LIKE the F-35. The F-22 ALSO needed a SW upgrade after the fact to allow it to use more weapons. Just like this article.
Heck man, by the time F-15 was as old as the F-35 they were already working on the C model!!
Why does everyone think teething issues are new and shocking?
Actually, that sounds like an F15. (See the Israeli pilot who flew on one wing).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M359poNjvVA
108 and possibly as many as 200 F-35's are little more than prototypes because they cannot or the Air Force will not fund upgrades.
There are better fighters out there. This one and the variations have lots of bad press about them. All the testing is not going to help if it cannot carry enough weapons.
I would like to find out more about this issue. I’m wondering if the 100 F-35s are going to be used as trainers and don’t need expensive upgrades. We used F-15A/B models as trainers when most of the operational squadrons had upgraded to the F-15C/D models.
Is it possible that these aircraft are destined to be Nuke certified and wouldn’t carry conventional weapons? The SALT treaty limits the number of Nuke certified aircraft, so the verification process would need to differentiate between Nuke Capable and Non Nuke capable.
Maybe they’re destined for foreign sales or training foreign students who wouldn’t need access to some of the technology.
Maybe they’re going to be used as recce aircraft or other special purpose missions, like signal intelligence, or jamming.
Every fighter aircraft acquisition contract that I’m aware of includes the upgraded software. I think there’s probably a good reason for not upgrading these particular aircraft.
Software for the F-22 is hard to write because the electronic hardware is actually quite elderly. We're talking 25mhz processors. Procurement was extended and it caused headaches.
Heck man, by the time F-15 was as old as the F-35 they were already working on the C model!!
The first operational F-15A's were delivered in to combat squadrons in 76'
In 79' the Israeli's shot down a Syrian Mig using it.
Astounding by todays standards. Teething is built in today because it generates funding.
Still remember the F-22 trying a transpac and losing all navigation crossing the date line (or something like that). Had to have the accompanying refueling aircraft lead them back to Hawaii, IIRC.
Software glitch..........
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