seems if you are in the US ILLEGALLY, any and all money/profits are ILLEGAL and subject to confiscation just like assets bought from drug money are
Posted on 10/14/2017 8:18:31 AM PDT by JP1201
Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents are instructed to select property for forfeiture primarily based on its value, with the legal status of the property only a secondary concern, according to ICE forfeiture guidelines leaked to The Intercept.
The 71-page “Asset Forfeiture Handbook” governs forfeiture practices for Homeland Security Investigations (HSI), a branch of ICE, The Intercept reported Friday. Civil forfeiture is the government practice of taking property from a private citizen. In civil forfeiture cases, the state prosecutes a person’s property, rather than the owner themselves, and assumes the property’s guilt because property has no due process rights. While the handbook was originally published in 2010, ICE confirmed to The Intercept that it was the most up-to-date version of department forfeiture guidelines.
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Is this about the property of illegal aliens or American citizens ???
People that run rackets, like Asplundh tree service for example, and hide behind the corporation should be subject to forfeiture for knowingly hiring illegals.
>Is this about the property of illegal aliens or American citizens ???
To govt, is there a difference?
Obama’s rules or new rules?
Either way I’m all for forfeiture of proven illegals and convicted human trafficers.
Why do you say Asplundh tree service is a racket? Curious. FRmail if answer is compromising or very long.
Oh that. It was taken care of and those concerned are gone - was a racket run unknown to Corporate - scam was not a policy.
It needs to be stopped. The end doesn't justify the means. Who is affected is irrelevant.
Are you for the Constitution, or for CAV (Civil Asset Forfeiture)?
You cannot be both, for in the Constitution the 4th guarantees security of a person's possessions, as does the 5th (along with guaranteeing due process), and the 6th guarantees that in all criminal cases the accused has the right to defense — but with CAV the property is assumed to be guilty, and being property and not 'persons' essentially denied a just defense, but also taken from the possessor before any defense can be mounted.
IOW, you cannot be both a Constitutionalist and support CAV.
(This is why Sessions is not and cannot be a Constitutionalist.)
This is how it should be:
when a legal citizen provides accurate and actionable information regarding a property owning illegal immigrant then the reporter citizen should receive 10% of the value of the liquidated assets.
we need incentivize this.
We need to get the American people themselves involved this is a populist issue.
For decades they have already had a similar system for people who turn in tax evaders.
this is simply fairness.
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“...In civil forfeiture cases, the state prosecutes a person’s property, rather than the owner themselves, and assumes the property’s guilt because property has no due process rights...”
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Surprised some snazzy\low-life lawyer (I repeat myself) hasn’t tried this same reasoning when it comes to DUI, shootings, etc.
“It was the CAR\GUN, no my client, your honor\members of the jury...”
Course, govt isn’t interested in ‘logical conclusions’ or ‘unintended consequences’.
This has been exposed about other agencies. It seems that handbook is a standard resource throughout law enforcement from federal to local. It was an obvious development the day the USSC said Civil Asset Forfeiture in its extreme form was legal and, most effectively, that the thieving agency could keep part or all of the proceeds for itself. Nothing like making rank corruption legal.
bttt!
seems if you are in the US ILLEGALLY, any and all money/profits are ILLEGAL and subject to confiscation just like assets bought from drug money are
That's the problem, the federal government simply does not have the resources to prosecute all the alien smugglers. There are thousands arrested each week at ports of entry, BP check points and ICE interior enforcement operations.
The federal court system simply can't handle the load so generally the only ones who get prosecuted are cases that involve aliens getting injured in the smuggling operation. Like when they open an 18 wheeler and find a bunch of dead aliens.
Since prosecution is not possible DHS simply voluntarily returns the illegal aliens, deports the smuggler if they are illegal aliens or immigrants and seizes the vehicle (generally a POS) for later auction if it is road worthy.
Then the smuggling organization buys back the vehicle at auction and the entire process starts over again.
They don’t have to get them all just get the biggest ones first and hammer them hard. Also take down any government people that are on the take, get them especially hard.
The ‘Word’ will get out.
Use the procedes to go after the rest.
If it’s ICE it’s probably illegal aliens.
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