Posted on 10/11/2017 6:21:44 PM PDT by markomalley
“Women served with distinction in WWII, women pilots ferried planes everywhere, WASP’s I they were called.”
The only women I know serving in combat zones in WWII were nurses, and they weren’t engaged in combat.
“There are many women serving as deck officers and marine engineers on merchant ships chartered to the navy.”
There is a big difference between merchant ships and Navy warships.
Historically and culturally we the USA have not required or desired that women be engaged in actual combat. It is against every principle we subscribe to.
>I don’t think there’s anyone out there who can deny that there were some Russian women who were extremely effective as snipers during WW II. Some of them, such as Lyudmila Pavlichenko (”Lady Death”) were as deadly as they come.
I can. Only idiots believe Soviet propaganda. The fact that they never used female snipers again indicates it was a lie.
The Russians stopped training new women snipers in 1943 because the women snipers were being killed at a higher rate than the men snipers. Women already assigned as snipers continued in that roll until the end of the war.
Women should not be in the military. That is all you need to know. Either should faggots and weirdos.
It wasn’t a lie. They did use women snipers, they also used women in tank crews, artillery crews, infantry unit medics, infantry unit radio operators, they used them as fighter and bomber pilots and crew members. The fact that they did not use them after WWII shows how desperate the Reds were during the War. After the war ended and the Red army demobilized, there was enough manpower to meet the military needs of the post war Soviet Army, so women were no longer assigned to these rolls.
Winning what ... ?
Forced marches only happen if all the women agree, and only for 25 yards or 25 feet - depending on mood and attention spans of those females involved.
The Soviet Union had women in the military before ww2 as well. They were an advanced Marxist/feminist nation after all. The women made good propganda copy but were disbanded in 1944 when it became clear they were more of a liability than an asset. The Marxist propaganda on the subject continues to live on spread both by Marxists and their useful dupes.
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Or read about the Marines at Hue in 1968. No place for a 100 lb grunt.
I was originally commissioned as an Armor officer and spent my first years as an Abrams platoon leader, before transferring to the MP corps. IMHO, women have no place in the combat arms. I would not have wanted to be a tank platoon leader with one or more females in the platoon for any number of reasons, many of them already cited on this thread.
On the other hand, I worked with any number of female MPs and CID agents and they were indispensable in situations where it came to searching/transporting female subjects, non-combatant civilians, third country nationals or interviewing victims of sexual assault, rape, domEric violence etc.
In 1945, 20% of the soviet tanks in Zhukov’s & Konev’s armies storming Berlin had women crew members, including at least one tank battalion commander that was a women.
False. The fact of female snipers is no lie. Was it "Soviet propaganda" when Deborah Samson enlisted in the Continental Army during the American Revolution, was wounded twice, and ultimately received a soldier's pension due to her honorable service?
And the fact that there were Soviet women snipers—who were effective at their job—can't be legitimately dismissed as "Soviet propaganda". The evidence is too strong.
The actions of these women are documented well enough, and if they were killed at higher rates, that doesn't change a thing. Nor does the fact that the Soviets didn't see the need to use women snipers again.
Joan of Arc led armies and fought. The French Resistance also had women who served in guerilla roles. That's combat, sir. Women serves as snipers in WW II, as infantry in the American Revolution, Kurdish women are right now fighting against ISIS, etc., and though their contributions may have been "minor", they have doubtless saved lives in numerous cases. I dare you to go and tell any of these brave and capable women that they aren't fit to be doing what they're doing.
So only idiots believe outdated male chauvinist propaganda.
Nobody is saying "women in combat" should be the norm. But becoming unhinged about the rare exceptions is ridiculous. In a world where men and women are supposed to be treated equally, when a woman wants to serve, and can meet the physical demands dictated by the parameters of her service, then let her. A woman has as much to lose as a man, so who are men to dictate whether they can fight or not?
I've read many anecdotes from male soldiers who were proud to have served alongside women, and who considered them indispensable to their units.
The days of hysterical dogma insisting that women can't fight are gone. If women want to fight, and can do their job, then let them fight. It'll obviously still be a rare thing, but men don't have a monopoly, and never did...
Sure there were female Soviet snipers. It’s their effectiveness that they lied about. A woman has the combat effectiveness of a 12 year old boy.
Bullsh!t. Women can shoot just as good as men.
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