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1 posted on 10/11/2017 1:17:13 PM PDT by servo1969
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“The company that owns Mandalay Bay has questioned the new timeline.”

I bet they have.


2 posted on 10/11/2017 1:19:29 PM PDT by servo1969
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the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

Not even Close, Janet Reno Killed 80 Women and CHildren in WACO.


3 posted on 10/11/2017 1:22:06 PM PDT by eyeamok (Idle hands are the Devil's workshop)
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To: servo1969

There seems to be a problem with finding the truth.


4 posted on 10/11/2017 1:22:22 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: servo1969
"rounds started coming down the hallway"

Well, that was unexpected

5 posted on 10/11/2017 1:23:55 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: servo1969
jammed fire door

..planned escape exit?

6 posted on 10/11/2017 1:23:57 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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"As soon as I started to go to a door to my left the rounds started coming down the hallway," Schuck said. "I could feel them pass right behind my head.

This is infuriatingly confusing. Am I to believe that Paddock was in the hallway as he fired at Schuck? I mean, that's what we've got to believe since "rounds started coming down the hallway", right?

"Maybe that's enough time to get the first patrolman onto the floor but the first patrolman is not going to go knock on that customer's door and say 'What's going on with 200 holes in the door?'" Hosko said.

But this suggests that Paddock was inside his guestroom and shooting into the hallway through the door. I guess both can be true if Paddock's door was perpendicular to the hallway. Is that the case?

7 posted on 10/11/2017 1:24:33 PM PDT by SSS Two
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To: servo1969

TWA 800 again.

The perp was an arms dealer,
another FAST&FURIOUS criminal tied to the
usual (Swamp) suspects.


8 posted on 10/11/2017 1:24:35 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: servo1969

Las Vegas cops said they got there within seconds of the security guard getting shot....

What happened to all that?


10 posted on 10/11/2017 1:25:12 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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The revised timeline has renewed questions about whether better communication might have allowed police to respond more quickly and take out the gunman before he committed the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

Worker Stephen Schuck says he was checking out a report of a jammed fire door on the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay when he heard gunshots and a hotel security guard, who had been shot in the leg, peeked out from an alcove and told him to take cover.

...

This new timeline looks like it’s now supported by some solid evidence.


11 posted on 10/11/2017 1:25:20 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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What about the woman who warned the crowd?

And the shell casings on top of the POS’s blood?


12 posted on 10/11/2017 1:25:37 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: servo1969

They need the crew of, ‘NCIS’ or ‘Criminal Minds’ on this.

It’ll all be solved in under 40 minutes! ;)


16 posted on 10/11/2017 1:30:29 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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more dots and not enough lines connecting the dots....

Which agency retrieved the bullets that zinged past his head?

Surely, these bullets left an impact on the wall.

LVPD and FBI.....fumbling along.


22 posted on 10/11/2017 1:35:56 PM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: servo1969
The revised timeline has renewed questions about whether better communication might have allowed police to respond more quickly and take out the gunman before he committed the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

There's no way the police were going to arrive, move up 32 floors and enter that room stopping the shooting spree.

00:30 The maintenance guy composes and calls the switchboard.
01:00 The switchboard checks with a supervisor to respond properly.
02:30 The call goes out to the police.
03:00 The police dispatch offers to the scene.
06:00 The police begin arriving at the hotel.
09:00 The police get equipment ready as other officers arrive and they enter the hotel.
10:00 The police are directed to a stairwell.
15:00 The police arrive at the 32nd floor.
15:00 The police hear automatic gunfire.
17:00 They use a card to enter the room.
17:00 An instantaneous firefight ensues.
20:00 Many officers are shot and the gunman is neutralized * **
* This 20:00 minute mark may wind up being a 45 minutes mark before it is completed.

** At best, these guys would be entering the room after the man already ended his shooting spree.

The insanity this incident has brought out into the open seems to know no bounds.

That highlighted text above evidences no conception of reality.

23 posted on 10/11/2017 1:40:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: servo1969

This substantiate the LEO claim Campos was shot in a hail of 200 rounds, a full six minutes before the shooter opened up on the crowd.

At what time did Mandalay Bay notify LVMPD?

MGM is screwed. Likely out of business.


28 posted on 10/11/2017 2:02:20 PM PDT by Mariner (Pink Pussy Hats for the NFL)
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a jammed fire door on the 32nd floor

Curious. I had read elsewhere that Saudi's owned the suite on the 33rd floor directly above.

Nice escape?

31 posted on 10/11/2017 2:14:51 PM PDT by Slyfox (Are you tired of winning yet?)
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I bet the encounter with the security guard and then the maintenance guy happened during the long lull AFTER the shooter had dumped four 100-rd clips out the window.

I'm posting below an analysis of all the shots heard from combining various videos that someone posted on the internet.

There was a lull of 1:48 when there was no shooting after the shooter had shot those four 100-rd sets.

I would guess he was expecting to have cops show up soon and he had stopped shooting and was finishing rigging a wall mount for a gun or a camera inside, so that if SWAT got into 135 through the doors he could retreat to 134 and see them or shoot at them remotely. That was the drilling sound.

So under this scenario, maybe the sets of 6, 6, 8 within a total of 8 seconds that ended the lull were when he saw Campos and shot through the door with a .308 and a 25-round mag.

Then there is another pause of 40 seconds. Campos is hiding in the alcove with a leg wound. During this pause Schuck shows up, comes down the hall, Campos yells holmes, take cover! and then the shooter unloads with a second 25-round mag shooting 23 shots through the door. The next 13 shots may be through the door as well.

At no time was the door to the shooter's suite open, he saw all this through the camera and saw Campos coming down the hall as took a break from shooting out the window to finish drilling something, and Campos had heard the drilling from down the hall.

Then the shooter goes back to shooting out the window, after another six minutes, cops show up at the elevator bank.

So the summary is that the shooter first shot single rounds at the fuel tanks. Then he shot 100-rd mag dumps out the window at the crowd. Then he shot a few sets of shots down the hall. Then he went back to dumping 100-rd mags out the window at the crowd. Each 100-rd mag dump is a different rifle, he doesn't reload, so he uses up nine of the twelve bump-stock rifles. Maybe the other three jammed. At the end, he is using different rifles with less than 100-rd mags or maybe the very final dump is part of a 100-rd mag. The two final single shots are him testing his revolver and then shooting himself in the chest.


32 posted on 10/11/2017 2:45:38 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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So basically MGM prefers the old timeline because their lawyers want to avoid the appearance that any of them KNEW of a shooter BEFORE the concert crowd shooting began.

That’s it, I guess.

And that, in addition to the immigration narrative, is why they were all so effusive about “how the security guard’s selfless actions after the concern shooting so dramatically shortened the shooting duration.”


33 posted on 10/11/2017 3:10:15 PM PDT by gaijin
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It is weird how there was no mention of Schuck for the week following the shooting. Now that the story about the security guard has changed, we hear about another person on the scene right around the time of the shooting.

I think that the stairwell plays an important role in this tale. I want to know if it provides access to the Four Seasons that sits on top of the Mandalay Bay hotel.


39 posted on 10/11/2017 4:35:53 PM PDT by independentmind (Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.)
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Why didn’t the janitor call 911?
Maybe it was hotel procedure?


59 posted on 10/12/2017 3:34:07 AM PDT by Maris Crane (.)
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Not sure if this is on FR yet.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/las-vegas-security-guard-shot-by-vegas-killer-is-not-registered-as-a-security-guard-in-the-state-of-nevada/

Las Vegas Security Guard Shot by Vegas Killer is Not Registered as a Security Guard in the State of Nevada?

by Jim Hoft

It’s being reported that the security guard made famous in the Las Vegas shooter story is not even registered as a guard with the State of Nevada. Is he even a guard? Why was he there?

Every security guard in the state of Nevada has to register as an armed or unarmed guard with the state’s Private Investigator’s Licensing Board (PILB). This entity’s records are publicly searchable at: nevadapilb.glsuite.us.

There’s no Jesus Campos licensed with the PILB.


76 posted on 10/12/2017 1:50:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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