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U.S. rules out negotiated ISIS withdrawal from Syria’s Raqqa
USA Today ^ | Oct. 11, 2017 | Associated Press

Posted on 10/11/2017 12:10:16 PM PDT by BeauBo

The U.S.-led coalition battling the Islamic State said Wednesday that it won’t accept a negotiated withdrawal for hundreds of ISIS militants holed up in the Syrian city of Raqqa, once the extremists’ de facto capital.

(Excerpt) Read more at usatoday.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: isis; raqqa; sdf
The Battle for Raqqa is coming to its end - about a week or two left.

There was a pause Monday/Tuesday, while ISIS tried to negotiate a withdrawal of its last 300 or so fighters (and a few leaders), along with their families - in exchange for sparing the many civilian hostages they have.

That deal has been publicly vetoed by the US-led Coalition, which insists that ISIS must surrender or die.

In a big change from the past, ISIS members have begun to surrender in some places (about a thousand surrendered in Hawija, Iraq recently). This may be a new strategy to maintain some capability to form secret cells later - in recognition that military defeat is imminent. Alternatively, it might just be a sign of a developing collapse of the remaining ISIS forces.

The firm stance of the US military, insisting on unconditional surrender, will be well noted by the rest of ISIS still fighting. Certain defeat seems unavoidable for them, as long as the USA holds firm. Their only choice is to run for their lives, if they don't want to end up dead or in prison.

A wholesale collapse of ISIS is now more likely over this Winter - maybe even before Christmas.

1 posted on 10/11/2017 12:10:16 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

Part of unconditional surrender is that they all feast on a pig roast and get sent home with a dog.


2 posted on 10/11/2017 12:13:57 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: BeauBo

Kill em. Kill them all. Then let them surrender.


3 posted on 10/11/2017 12:15:40 PM PDT by Autonomous User (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: BeauBo
Please form an orderly line and step into the green portable surrender office.


4 posted on 10/11/2017 12:17:36 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: BeauBo
Suffered defeats in these last months?

Something must have changed,

Wonder what it was?

5 posted on 10/11/2017 12:24:01 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Eagles6

Wow! Something tells me they take no prisoners in that part of the world. Hope they’re filming the executions like ISIS does.


6 posted on 10/11/2017 12:37:01 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: BeauBo

Surrender? Does anyone honestly think they will not walk out and do surrender right outside the border, get sent to prison for about 90 days, then come right back to kill some more? If you don’t, you need help.

rwood


7 posted on 10/11/2017 12:37:51 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Steady as you go.


8 posted on 10/11/2017 12:44:12 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: BeauBo

Hell to the NO on any negotiations with ISIS. The only negotiations pertaining to them should be whether to bury their body parts with pig entrails or incinerate them in a pit.

Either way.. KILL THEM FIRST!!!


9 posted on 10/11/2017 12:45:34 PM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberals, go find another country.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I’d pay to see that!


10 posted on 10/11/2017 12:49:30 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: BeauBo

Here’s the deal: your troops will come out one at a time with hands up. The boys would like some target practice.


11 posted on 10/11/2017 12:49:49 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: ScottinVA

There will be plenty of volunteers to do the executing. A soldier who’s family members are victims. I say have a lottery amongst them. Allow civilians in on it.


12 posted on 10/11/2017 12:50:39 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“Hope they’re filming the executions like ISIS does.”

The Kurds in Syria have been well disciplined, and such videos are not seen.

In Iraq however, many such videos were posted on the Internet, showing ISIS prisoners (and possibly innocent Sunni victims) being executed by the Shi’ite militias (Hashd al Shaabi). Often the prisoners were executed in the way that Shi’ite relatives had been, or that ISIS had publicized with their captives (thrown from heights, decapitated, or burned alive).

The Sunnis (and their tribes) who supported ISIS are going to pay a steep price under Shi’ite rule in Iraq - vendettas will run for a long time. In Syria under the Kurds/SDF, it is likely to be (much) more selective and judicial, but jihadis will be hunted there as well. No one is going to forget, for a very long time.


13 posted on 10/11/2017 12:57:40 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

On unconditional surrender will do.


14 posted on 10/11/2017 1:10:35 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: BeauBo

Kill. Every. Single. One.


15 posted on 10/11/2017 1:23:54 PM PDT by tomkat
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Here are a few that recently surrendered:

A seprate article talks about what will happen to those who surrender (http://theregion.org/article/11745-as-islamic-state-militants-surrender-to-sdf-in-raqqa-here-is-what-will-happen):

"SDF forces are confronted with the question of how to deal with surrendered militants and their families.

"Families will be taken to the camp in Ayn Issa. No legal action will be taken against them. As for the militants, they must face the judgements of the SDF. SDF will conduct an investigation to determine the type of crime committed by each militant. To take an example, for those who haven't used any weapons in the war (non-combatants - e.g. drivers, laborers, technical specialists in oil fields or utilities), they will be forgiven if they vow to never join the Islamic State again, and if they promise not to fight against SDF again." Nazim Dastan, a journalist in Raqqa reported to The Region.

The SDF has been confronted with a similar situation in the past.

"The same procedure was followed in Tabqa operation" Dastan said. This happened after Islamic State militants surrendered and fled to SDF held territory."

Those who are convicted of bearing arms for ISIS are subject to the death penalty, and such sentences are promptly executed.

16 posted on 10/11/2017 1:28:40 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Autonomous User

What? Are they out of ammo? Kill them all.


17 posted on 10/11/2017 1:55:07 PM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: BeauBo

Thanks for posting. I saw this on Stars and Stripes this morning and was looking for it elsewhere.


18 posted on 10/12/2017 6:44:09 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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