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Texas' Toll Roads: A Big Step Towards Open Markets For Transportation
Forbes ^ | June 30, 2017 | Scott Beyer

Posted on 10/10/2017 8:10:17 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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1 posted on 10/10/2017 8:10:18 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We pay massive taxes and the result is poor roads so the gov’t employee gets fat pensions.

The gov’t will NOT lower taxes. The toll road will be another TAX and you can bet some of that money will be siphoned into insiders pockets.


2 posted on 10/10/2017 8:13:37 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

double dipping

That’s all this amounts to.

It’s your wallet folks. If you like paying gas taxes and tolls too, then you should be happy as pigs in slop.


3 posted on 10/10/2017 8:13:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: minnesota_bound
I pay about $3k in tolls a year here in Dallas, but generally like keeping the rift-raft off so I can get there in reasonable amounts of time. The good news with variable pricing is that as the roads get more congested, you just up the cost and it reduces traffic... Been working great now that I have to drive to Frisco.

No conservative should be against use taxes... they tax those who use the service. The only road taxes you pay are gas tax or tolls.
4 posted on 10/10/2017 8:15:32 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
p07

The Bangles opened the Sam Houston Tollway with a concert way back in the 80's.

Tollbooths were supposed to come down once the road was paid for. They're still there and with fare increases.

5 posted on 10/10/2017 8:18:02 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
And—shenanigans from the governor's office notwithstanding—their openness to immigrants means they have cheap and robust labor forces.

Forbes is part of the open borders cabal.

6 posted on 10/10/2017 8:20:09 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I loathe all of these public-private deals, whether it is selling off our existing highways, farming out traffic ticket revenue schemes, selling public streets, handing over the reigns (and revenue) from our parks and convention centers, it is all globalist sweetheart cronyism. Feh.


7 posted on 10/10/2017 8:20:29 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The LBJ Express in Dallas is great. Yeah, it costs money and I only use it about once a week, but it is really nice.

The one thing Dallas did in the 70s was to take all of the major roads going north and south and turn them into six lanes with a boulevard in the middle. That has done a lot to alleviate traffic congestion across the city.

8 posted on 10/10/2017 8:20:31 AM PDT by Slyfox (Are you tired of winning yet?)
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To: TexasGunLover
The only road taxes you pay are gas tax or tolls.

The only road taxes you pay are gas tax AND tolls.

9 posted on 10/10/2017 8:21:01 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Roads are a necessity of life and commerce and they need to be paid for, both in terms of actual construction and routine maintenance. Taxing those who use them seems like a reasonable approach to me.


10 posted on 10/10/2017 8:21:26 AM PDT by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The tolls in Houston are certainly not majority under $1.


11 posted on 10/10/2017 8:23:50 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: DoughtyOne
The only road taxes you pay are gas tax AND tolls.

Do you exclusively use toll roads?
12 posted on 10/10/2017 8:31:16 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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“double dipping”

Yep. Taxpayers are merely blood bags for the parasites to feed upon.


13 posted on 10/10/2017 8:32:34 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: Snickering Hound

Robert Eckels(R) said he didn’t have to obey that because that was promised before he was in charge.


14 posted on 10/10/2017 8:35:57 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: minnesota_bound
Their lighter tax

We used to have lighter taxes and at the same time the best roads in the nation. Forty years ago, all that changed. Roads are crap. Property appraisal values are out of control. Property taxes are raised 10% every year resulting in ours going from 2 weeks of income to a whopping 3 and a half MONTHS of income. Our paycheck has never kept up with the taxes. Sales tax has gone from 5 cents to 8.25 cents.

No one wants to pay for roads they've already paid for. It doesn't matter if it takes an extra 3 minutes, I refuse to travel on the new toll road through Austin. Well, I avoid Austin like the plague it is.

15 posted on 10/10/2017 8:36:12 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: TexasGunLover

You never pay tolls or gas taxes.

If you’re paying a toll, you’re paying both.

Your comment that you only pay gas taxes or tolls was not accurate.


16 posted on 10/10/2017 8:36:24 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: Snickering Hound
Tollbooths were supposed to come down once the road was paid for.

The same was said of the Golden Gate Bridge. That's one reason why I'd rather pay for roads out of my taxes than stop every 10 miles to pay cash or slow down to 5 mph to have my window sensor scanned.

17 posted on 10/10/2017 8:37:15 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Dump Flake)
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To: minnesota_bound

Amen to that! Toll roads will be just another revenue stream for the government. They aren’t there to lower our taxes or provide more value. They are there to fill government coffers.


18 posted on 10/10/2017 8:37:47 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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And guess who’s lobbying for the public-private high speed rail?

They’ll tell you that is privately funded but look at their plans to use public funds to bring it downtown.


19 posted on 10/10/2017 8:38:08 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: TexasGunLover

I remember the Dallas toll roads 50 years ago. They must have been paid for ten times over - at the very least.


20 posted on 10/10/2017 8:38:52 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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